From Helen.Young at seetec.co.uk Tue Jul 1 01:44:18 2008 From: Helen.Young at seetec.co.uk (Helen Young) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:13 2008 Subject: BW )(: RE: Volunteering Message-ID: <34536505CC83274FB78B1F4815B6D42304E3B55D@mail.seetec.group> Hello Woodsy, No money involved for either party - we don't do bribes. We encourage all work experience providers to use their standard interview process to decide whether any potential volunteer would be capable of making a worthwhile contribution to their company. We want to avoid 'babysitting' and promote working independently. A placement should be as like an actual job role as possible. If someone is going to take up too much time from your existing staff, they clearly wouldn't be suitable, and you would have the right to refuse them a placement. Also, there's no commitment to four days a week - they can do up to four days, as previously stated. One day a week is fine with us. Problems solved? Helen -----Original Message----- From: bristolwireless-bounces@lists.psand.net [mailto:bristolwireless-bounces@lists.psand.net] On Behalf Of bristolwireless-request@lists.psand.net Sent: 30 June 2008 20:00 To: bristolwireless@lists.psand.net Subject: Bristolwireless Digest, Vol 32, Issue 6 Send Bristolwireless mailing list submissions to bristolwireless@lists.psand.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to bristolwireless-request@lists.psand.net You can reach the person managing the list at bristolwireless-owner@lists.psand.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Bristolwireless digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Volunteering (Helen Young) 2. Re: Volunteering (Steve Woods) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:30:10 +0100 From: "Helen Young" Subject: BW )(: Volunteering To: Message-ID: <34536505CC83274FB78B1F4815B6D42304DA0692@mail.seetec.group> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello everyone, Nice to 'meet' you all. I hope it is okay for me to ask about this on here, and apologies to anyone for whom this isn't relevant. My name is Helen, and I work for Seetec, a training provider in Bristol city centre, which aims to get people on the New Deal programme back into work through, amongst other things, funding internal and external study for work-related qualifications and finding voluntary work experience placements for our learners. In these, they can gain valuable skills in their chosen industry and give something back to the community at the same time. Quite often, we get jobseekers referred to us looking for opportunities in IT. We've had self-taught computer hardware buffs, who don't have their skills quantified the way businesses want with a qualification and industry experience, programmers with degrees who have had to take some time out to care for loved ones and find everything has moved on when they can return to work and IT support whizzes made redundant by companies who failed to keep their training up-to-date, now struggling to get their foot back in the door. I'm writing to ask whether Bristol Wireless or any other company subscribed to this list could benefit from an extra pair of skilled hands, for free, up to four days a week for anything up to 12 weeks. (Knowle West Web Computers have had a few of our learners come to help out with them, and that's been and continues to be a really positive partnership.) All you would need to do is provide a safe environment for the volunteer to work in and become a referee if they do a good job, and you get the final say as to whom is right for the roles you can offer. We can also help to set up work trials, if any of you have a vacancy one of our learners would be suitable to fill. If you think you could help and could use help or would just like some more information, get in touch with me - Helen.Young@seetec.co.uk - and I'll give you some more details. Kind regards, Helen Helen Young Marketing Co-ordinator Seetec 4th Floor Eagle House Colston Avenue Bristol. BS1 1EN Tel: 0117 9292183 Fax: 0117 9292183 Email: Helen.Young@seetec.co.uk ************************************************************************ ****************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way and notify the sender immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not the views of the company, unless specifically stated. ************************************************************************ ****************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.psand.net/pipermail/bristolwireless/attachments/20080630/a8 70aead/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:58:09 +0100 From: Steve Woods Subject: Re: BW )(: Volunteering To: bristolwireless@lists.psand.net Message-ID: <20080630125809.6szdjs78ggwggsk8@slackmail.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Quoting Helen Young : > Hello everyone, > > > > Nice to 'meet' you all. I hope it is okay for me to ask about this on > here, and apologies to anyone for whom this isn't relevant. > > > > My name is Helen, and I work for Seetec, a training provider in Bristol > city centre, which aims to get people on the New Deal programme back > into work through, amongst other things, funding internal and external > study for work-related qualifications and finding voluntary work > experience placements for our learners. In these, they can gain valuable > skills in their chosen industry and give something back to the community > at the same time. > > > > Quite often, we get jobseekers referred to us looking for opportunities > in IT. We've had self-taught computer hardware buffs, who don't have > their skills quantified the way businesses want with a qualification and > industry experience, programmers with degrees who have had to take some > time out to care for loved ones and find everything has moved on when > they can return to work and IT support whizzes made redundant by > companies who failed to keep their training up-to-date, now struggling > to get their foot back in the door. > > > > I'm writing to ask whether Bristol Wireless or any other company > subscribed to this list could benefit from an extra pair of skilled > hands, for free, up to four days a week for anything up to 12 weeks. > (Knowle West Web Computers have had a few of our learners come to help > out with them, and that's been and continues to be a really positive > partnership.) All you would need to do is provide a safe environment for > the volunteer to work in and become a referee if they do a good job, and > you get the final say as to whom is right for the roles you can offer. > We can also help to set up work trials, if any of you have a vacancy one > of our learners would be suitable to fill. > > > > If you think you could help and could use help or would just like some > more information, get in touch with me - Helen.Young@seetec.co.uk - and > I'll give you some more details. > > > > Kind regards, > > Helen > > > > Helen Young > > Marketing Co-ordinator > > > > Seetec > > 4th Floor > > Eagle House > > Colston Avenue > > Bristol. > > BS1 1EN > > > > Tel: 0117 9292183 > > Fax: 0117 9292183 > > Email: Helen.Young@seetec.co.uk > > > > > ************************************************************************ ****************************** > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > are addressed. If you have received this email in error please > delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information > in any way and notify the sender immediately. The contents of this > message may contain personal views which are not the views of the > company, unless specifically stated. > ************************************************************************ ****************************** > > Do these volunteers come with money attached, I wonder? Babysitting them for 4 days/week is going to mean a lot of work our regulars in the lab. Woodsy ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless End of Bristolwireless Digest, Vol 32, Issue 6 ********************************************** From andys at bristolwireless.net Tue Jul 1 03:02:55 2008 From: andys at bristolwireless.net (Andy S) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:13 2008 Subject: BW )(: =?windows-1252?q?=A32k_up_for_grabs_for_=22technology_pro?= =?windows-1252?q?ducts_and_services_through_TalkTalk=92s_new_Innov?= =?windows-1252?q?ation_in_the_Community_Awards_scheme=22?= Message-ID: <80d25c2b0807010302x1b6e4969qe79c03e7a3de8cd8@mail.gmail.com> Good promo for talktalk but no doubt an easy ?2k for suitable project, find out more here: http://www.connectingbristol.org/2008/07/01/talktalk-launches-innovation-in-the-community-grant-scheme/ A From mjr at phonecoop.coop Tue Jul 1 03:59:37 2008 From: mjr at phonecoop.coop (MJ Ray) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:13 2008 Subject: BW )(: Volunteering In-Reply-To: <34536505CC83274FB78B1F4815B6D42304DA0692@mail.seetec.group> References: <34536505CC83274FB78B1F4815B6D42304DA0692@mail.seetec.group> Message-ID: <486a0e19.KSupAKnWI/csiibs%mjr@phonecoop.coop> "Helen Young" wrote: > [...] All you would need to do is provide a safe environment for > the volunteer to work in and become a referee if they do a good job, and > you get the final say as to whom is right for the roles you can offer. Helen I wish you all the best with the project, but "provide a safe environment for the volunteer to work in" rules TTLLP out because I believe we've not insured anywhere for non-members to work and I'd have difficulty arguing for changing it so early in our insurance year. If you can let us know early in 2009 if your scheme still needs help, then we could reconsider it. Regards, -- MJ Ray (slef) Webmaster for hire, statistician and online shop builder for a small worker cooperative http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ (Notice http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html) tel:+44-844-4437-237 From rich at bristolwireless.net Tue Jul 1 05:11:58 2008 From: rich at bristolwireless.net (Richard Higgs) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:13 2008 Subject: Fwd: Re: BW )(: Volunteering Message-ID: <20080701131158.zualtwlbks48sowg@slackmail.co.uk> ----- Forwarded message from rich@bristolwireless.net ----- Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:58:34 +0100 From: Richard Higgs Reply-To: Richard Higgs Subject: Re: BW )(: Volunteering To: MJ Ray Quoting MJ Ray : > "Helen Young" wrote: >> [...] All you would need to do is provide a safe environment for >> the volunteer to work in and become a referee if they do a good job, and >> you get the final say as to whom is right for the roles you can offer. hi helen, unfortunately bristol wireless haven't been able to secure funding for any part time or full time posts. therefore we are not in the position to take on volunteers from any agency's. if dwp are willing to fund a training program and a part time volunteer coordinator we would then be in a position to supply this type of service. but until then we rely on a highly skilled team of volunteer and contractors to run the project on a daily basis. thank you for your interest. regards richard > > Helen > > I wish you all the best with the project, but "provide a safe > environment for the volunteer to work in" rules TTLLP out because I > believe we've not insured anywhere for non-members to work and I'd > have difficulty arguing for changing it so early in our insurance year. > If you can let us know early in 2009 if your scheme still needs help, > then we could reconsider it. > > Regards, > -- > MJ Ray (slef) > Webmaster for hire, statistician and online shop builder for a small > worker cooperative http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ > (Notice http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html) tel:+44-844-4437-237 > > _______________________________________________ > Bristolwireless mailing list > Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ----- End forwarded message ----- ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Helen.Young at seetec.co.uk Tue Jul 1 06:37:59 2008 From: Helen.Young at seetec.co.uk (Helen Young) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:13 2008 Subject: BW )(: Volunteering Message-ID: <34536505CC83274FB78B1F4815B6D42304E3B7CC@mail.seetec.group> Hello MJ, Thank you for your support. Learners on placements with companies should automatically be covered by standard Employers' Liability Insurance, but I'm not all that up on the specifics of policies. If you'd like to join the scheme earlier, it is probably worth asking your insurers to double-check, but it shouldn't be a problem. If it is an issue in this instance, I'll be sure to get back in touch next year. Kind regards, Helen -----Original Message----- From: MJ Ray [mailto:mjr@phonecoop.coop] Sent: 01 July 2008 12:00 To: bristolwireless@lists.psand.net Cc: Helen Young Subject: Re: BW )(: Volunteering "Helen Young" wrote: > [...] All you would need to do is provide a safe environment for > the volunteer to work in and become a referee if they do a good job, and > you get the final say as to whom is right for the roles you can offer. Helen I wish you all the best with the project, but "provide a safe environment for the volunteer to work in" rules TTLLP out because I believe we've not insured anywhere for non-members to work and I'd have difficulty arguing for changing it so early in our insurance year. If you can let us know early in 2009 if your scheme still needs help, then we could reconsider it. Regards, -- MJ Ray (slef) Webmaster for hire, statistician and online shop builder for a small worker cooperative http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ (Notice http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html) tel:+44-844-4437-237 ****************************************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way and notify the sender immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not the views of the company, unless specifically stated. ****************************************************************************************************** From mjr at phonecoop.coop Wed Jul 2 02:01:52 2008 From: mjr at phonecoop.coop (MJ Ray) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:13 2008 Subject: BW )(: Volunteering In-Reply-To: <34536505CC83274FB78B1F4815B6D42304E3B7CC@mail.seetec.group> References: <34536505CC83274FB78B1F4815B6D42304E3B7CC@mail.seetec.group> Message-ID: <486b4400.o3ia7uTN7mtXRnKr%mjr@phonecoop.coop> "Helen Young" wrote: > Thank you for your support. Learners on placements with companies should > automatically be covered by standard Employers' Liability Insurance, but > I'm not all that up on the specifics of policies. [...] TTLLP is a worker cooperative. As I understand it, in the eyes of the law, the members are self-employed partners. We do not employ anyone at this time. We have Public Liability Insurance and so on, but our ELI is the bare minimum. Hope that explains, -- MJ Ray (slef) Webmaster for hire, statistician and online shop builder for a small worker cooperative http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ (Notice http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html) tel:+44-844-4437-237 From petef at bristolwireless.net Thu Jul 3 02:34:23 2008 From: petef at bristolwireless.net (Peter Ferne) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:13 2008 Subject: BW )(: Open source Twitter alternative Message-ID: <9AE18CD8-0783-41C8-A787-D6B4927FF1A9@bristolwireless.net> http://times.usefulinc.com/2008/07/03-identica From sam at bristolwireless.net Thu Jul 3 04:34:45 2008 From: sam at bristolwireless.net (sam@bristolwireless.net) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:13 2008 Subject: BW )(: =?iso-8859-1?b?ozJr?= up for grabs for "technology products and services through TalkTalk?s new Innovation in the Community Awards scheme" In-Reply-To: <80d25c2b0807010302x1b6e4969qe79c03e7a3de8cd8@mail.gmail.com> References: <80d25c2b0807010302x1b6e4969qe79c03e7a3de8cd8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080703123445.ycu9oya7a8c04kok@slackmail.co.uk> Quoting Andy S : > Good promo for talktalk but no doubt an easy ?2k for suitable project, > find out more here: Shall we see if they would like to expand the Shaw close project? The free net connection would be good there.. 2p Sam > http://www.connectingbristol.org/2008/07/01/talktalk-launches-innovation-in-the-community-grant-scheme/ > > > A > > _______________________________________________ > Bristolwireless mailing list > Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > > About us; http://www.bristolwireless.net/wiki/index.php/NetworkSolutions ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From seankenny at gmail.com Thu Jul 3 05:05:36 2008 From: seankenny at gmail.com (sean) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:13 2008 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_BW_)(:_=A32k_up_for_grabs_for_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?"technology_products_and_services?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_through_TalkTalk=3Fs_new_Innovatio?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?n_in_the_Community_Awards_scheme"?= In-Reply-To: <20080703123445.ycu9oya7a8c04kok@slackmail.co.uk> References: <80d25c2b0807010302x1b6e4969qe79c03e7a3de8cd8@mail.gmail.com> <20080703123445.ycu9oya7a8c04kok@slackmail.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:34 PM, wrote: > Quoting Andy S : > >> Good promo for talktalk but no doubt an easy ?2k for suitable project, >> find out more here: > > > Shall we see if they would like to expand the Shaw close project? The free > net connection would be good there.. It was a fairly easy application process so I did one Sean > > 2p > > Sam > > >> >> http://www.connectingbristol.org/2008/07/01/talktalk-launches-innovation-in-the-community-grant-scheme/ >> >> >> A >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bristolwireless mailing list >> Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net >> http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless >> >> > > > > About us; > http://www.bristolwireless.net/wiki/index.php/NetworkSolutions > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > _______________________________________________ > Bristolwireless mailing list > Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > From mjr at phonecoop.coop Thu Jul 3 12:45:09 2008 From: mjr at phonecoop.coop (MJ Ray) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:13 2008 Subject: BW )(: Open source Twitter alternative In-Reply-To: <9AE18CD8-0783-41C8-A787-D6B4927FF1A9@bristolwireless.net> References: <9AE18CD8-0783-41C8-A787-D6B4927FF1A9@bristolwireless.net> Message-ID: <486d2c45.0+3xF27mx76p8yu6%mjr@phonecoop.coop> Peter Ferne wrote: > http://times.usefulinc.com/2008/07/03-identica That depends if you agree that "to ensure cooperation"[1] under the AGPL is open source. I think it crosses the line into forced publication, is non-free in important ways and is another example of FSF's mission drift. [1] - from the AGPL preamble. Compare with ICA first principle first word: voluntary. Is ensured cooperation really cooperation? It's probably better than twitter, but the actual engine of twitter wasn't the difficult part. It's all the interfaces, such as SMS and other social media sites and so on. Regards, -- MJ Ray (slef) Webmaster for hire, statistician and online shop builder for a small worker cooperative http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ (Notice http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html) tel:+44-844-4437-237 From mike at slackmail.co.uk Fri Jul 4 13:43:23 2008 From: mike at slackmail.co.uk (Mike Harris) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:13 2008 Subject: BW )(: Ujima Radio online Message-ID: <486E8B6B.7040000@slackmail.co.uk> Hi BW iist, Today Jim Farrand and myself installed a recycled machine running Debian GNU/Linux and Darkice at CEED's offices in St Paul's to run the new Ujima 98 FM radio stream. The station launched this very evening and the launch party is currently in full swing. The web site is at http://www.ujimaradio.com The stream is at http://live1.radiovague.com:8000/ujimaradio.mp3.m3u It's a tad commercial, but the fidelity sounds great so far, but check it out yourself, all feedback appreciated. Cheers, Mike. -- ---------- Mike Harris Mobile UK: +44 (0) 7811 671 893 Mobile Es: +34 696 763 122 PGP: http://mbharris.co.uk/mike.gpg.pu From woodsy at bristolwireless.net Sat Jul 5 02:03:29 2008 From: woodsy at bristolwireless.net (Steve Woods) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:13 2008 Subject: BW )(: Ujima Radio online In-Reply-To: <486E8B6B.7040000@slackmail.co.uk> References: <486E8B6B.7040000@slackmail.co.uk> Message-ID: <20080705100329.4fh32fphwog0s0c4@slackmail.co.uk> Quoting Mike Harris : > Hi BW iist, > > Today Jim Farrand and myself installed a recycled machine running > Debian GNU/Linux and Darkice at CEED's offices in St Paul's to run the > new Ujima 98 FM radio stream. The station launched this very evening > and the launch party is currently in full swing. > > The web site is at http://www.ujimaradio.com > > The stream is at http://live1.radiovague.com:8000/ujimaradio.mp3.m3u > > It's a tad commercial, but the fidelity sounds great so far, but check > it out yourself, all feedback appreciated. > > Cheers, > > Mike. > -- > Nice one Mike. I hope you enjoyed the launch party. I also see you've started drafting a news piece for BW news. When you've finished it, please text/email me to let me know, so I can approve it for publication (and thanks for taking to trouble to write it in the first place mate!). Regards Woo > ---------- > Mike Harris > Mobile UK: +44 (0) 7811 671 893 > Mobile Es: +34 696 763 122 > PGP: http://mbharris.co.uk/mike.gpg.pu > > _______________________________________________ > Bristolwireless mailing list > Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From sooty126 at hotmail.com Sat Jul 5 05:15:40 2008 From: sooty126 at hotmail.com (Ronnie Corbett) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:13 2008 Subject: BW )(: Ujima Radio online In-Reply-To: <486E8B6B.7040000@slackmail.co.uk> <20080705100329.4fh32fphwog0s0c4@slackmail.co.uk> References: <486E8B6B.7040000@slackmail.co.uk> <20080705100329.4fh32fphwog0s0c4@slackmail.co.uk> Message-ID: terrific sound I have headphones for the deaf as I have a hearing impediment and the sound is great well done -------------------------------------------------- From: "Steve Woods" Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 10:03 AM To: Subject: Re: BW )(: Ujima Radio online > Quoting Mike Harris : > >> Hi BW iist, >> >> Today Jim Farrand and myself installed a recycled machine running >> Debian GNU/Linux and Darkice at CEED's offices in St Paul's to run the >> new Ujima 98 FM radio stream. The station launched this very evening >> and the launch party is currently in full swing. >> >> The web site is at http://www.ujimaradio.com >> >> The stream is at http://live1.radiovague.com:8000/ujimaradio.mp3.m3u >> >> It's a tad commercial, but the fidelity sounds great so far, but check >> it out yourself, all feedback appreciated. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Mike. >> -- >> > > Nice one Mike. I hope you enjoyed the launch party. > > I also see you've started drafting a news piece for BW news. When you've > finished it, please text/email me to let me know, so I can approve it for > publication (and thanks for taking to trouble to write it in the first > place mate!). > > Regards > Woo >> ---------- >> Mike Harris >> Mobile UK: +44 (0) 7811 671 893 >> Mobile Es: +34 696 763 122 >> PGP: http://mbharris.co.uk/mike.gpg.pu >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bristolwireless mailing list >> Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net >> http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > > _______________________________________________ > Bristolwireless mailing list > Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > From mike at slackmail.co.uk Thu Jul 10 09:50:12 2008 From: mike at slackmail.co.uk (Mike Harris) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:13 2008 Subject: BW )(: [Fwd: [dorkbotbristol] July's Dorkbot: next Tuesday 15th July from 7PM onwards at PMS] Message-ID: <48763DC4.7010805@slackmail.co.uk> Hi All, I know some of you are on the Dorkbot list, but I thought you'd be interesting in coming to this. Please read the details as places are limited and you'll need to sign up. Cheers, Mike. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [dorkbotbristol] July's Dorkbot: next Tuesday 15th July from 7PM onwards at PMS Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:38:48 +0100 From: dorkbotbristol-announce@dorkbot.org Reply-To: dorkbotbristol@dorkbot.org To: dorkbotbristol-announce@dorkbot.org Hi fellow Dorkboteros of Bristol, Presenting the next Dorkbot: "Gameplan" : strategies for survival in a digital future. The next Dorkbot will be next Tuesday the 15th at the Pervasive Media Studio as usual. (note the thing about signing up, below) http://www.dorkbot.org/dorkbotbristol/?p=82 http://www.dorkbot.org/dorkbotbristol/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/julydorkflya4a.pdf This month's is in collaboration with Simon at Iglab and will be an introduction to street/pervasive games. So we?ll be playing somefun games including: the Comfort of Strangers, the Lost Sport of Olimpia, hypSync and OMMRPG (the Korean laser - mirror game). People who are interested in playing some experimental games can come to get early access to some games still in development. It?s free but spaces are unfortunately limited, so if you are coming, please sign up via the following link: http://iglab.eventwax.com/iglab-5 More info about Iglab here: http://iglab.urbanantics.net/www/ and our very own Facebook group is http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2362964404&ref=ts See you there, Mike. -- ---------- Mike Harris Mobile UK: +44 (0) 7811 671 893 Mobile Es: +34 696 763 122 PGP: http://mbharris.co.uk/mike.gpg.pub Unsubscribe You have been sent this email because you are signed up to the dorkbot bristol mailing list. If you would like to unsubscribe please visit http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/dorkbotbristol-announce ........................................................................ .........dorkbot: people doing strange things with electricity.......... ......................... http://dorkbot.org/dorkbotbristol ........................... ........................................................................ -- ---------- Mike Harris Mobile UK: +44 (0) 7811 671 893 Mobile Es: +34 696 763 122 PGP: http://mbharris.co.uk/mike.gpg.pub From mjr at phonecoop.coop Thu Jul 10 12:26:04 2008 From: mjr at phonecoop.coop (MJ Ray) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:13 2008 Subject: BW )(: RFID devices Message-ID: <4876624c.rDF3hF3CrAIw3+CI%mjr@phonecoop.coop> Does anyone here have an RFID device available and can test a tag for me, please? My TRF7960-based ISO-15693 ISO-18000-3 reader has just met a tag it can read but not write and I really need to write it! Apologies for those of you who have seen this on Bristol/Bath LUG. It seems that TI's TRF7960 can't write to some Philips tags. An ISO not-so-standard strikes again? Hoping, -- MJ Ray (slef) Webmaster for hire, statistician and online shop builder for a small worker cooperative http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ (Notice http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html) tel:+44-844-4437-237 From seank at voscur.org Tue Jul 15 05:59:36 2008 From: seank at voscur.org (Sean Kenny) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:13 2008 Subject: BW )(: FW: welcome to igfest In-Reply-To: <269218B902A0F84DB720A1ABFD684D8E02D6FE@server2k3.voscur.org> References: <269218B902A0F84DB720A1ABFD684D8E02D6FE@server2k3.voscur.org> Message-ID: Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From: bails Subject: St Werbs old CCTV Cameras Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 11:57:16 +0100 Size: 624 Url: http://lists.psand.net/pipermail/bristolwireless/attachments/20080716/bf4e0105/StWerbsoldCCTVCameras.eml From skoria at gmail.com Wed Jul 16 09:28:35 2008 From: skoria at gmail.com (Ale Fernandez) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:13 2008 Subject: BW )(: A mailing list/IRC channel? Message-ID: <547aa2c40807160928h32d7dfcew70d5b6ccd9dea100@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I'm trying to put together a meeting/show and tell of all the people who do different kinds of online exchange systems in and around Bristol - like Freeconomy, Feral Trade and timebank. In doing this I've met a guy called Gary Alexander, who has a plone based community exchange system he now wants to take further and make into a web application running off a local machine that local groups can use, but that also lets the different groups sell and trade between each other. http://dissconnected.net/about-us/about-exchange So he asked me: He's just getting a team together to work on packaging the current system into a product, and then working on the next generation of it all. a) does anyone want to help, if they have plone experience and b) did I know of anywhere he could run an IRC channel and a mailing list from? Sounds like bristol wireless might be able to help with that last one - would that be okay? Ale -- ~The Cycle of the formation and disintegration http://eis.bris.ac.uk/~cmadf/ of the universe influences the formation and disintegration of nature, which in turn is closely related with human life" - Yasuji Kimikura From mike at slackmail.co.uk Wed Jul 16 13:06:49 2008 From: mike at slackmail.co.uk (Mike Harris) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:13 2008 Subject: BW )(: A mailing list/IRC channel? In-Reply-To: <547aa2c40807160928h32d7dfcew70d5b6ccd9dea100@mail.gmail.com> References: <547aa2c40807160928h32d7dfcew70d5b6ccd9dea100@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <487E54D9.90509@slackmail.co.uk> b) did I know of anywhere he could run an IRC channel and a mailing list from? He would be welcome to use the Psand irc server that provides the #clan channel, he can pop in to irc.psand.net and just join it and hey presto. For a mailing list, I could set one up for him using the mail server, just get him to email me with what he requires to mike@slackmail.co.uk. Cheers, Mike. Ale Fernandez wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to put together a meeting/show and tell of all the people > who do different kinds of online exchange systems in and around > Bristol - like Freeconomy, Feral Trade and timebank. > > In doing this I've met a guy called Gary Alexander, who has a plone > based community exchange system he now wants to take further and make > into a web application running off a local machine that local groups > can use, but that also lets the different groups sell and trade > between each other. > > http://dissconnected.net/about-us/about-exchange > > So he asked me: He's just getting a team together to work on packaging > the current system into a product, and then working on the next > generation of it all. > > a) does anyone want to help, if they have plone experience and > b) did I know of anywhere he could run an IRC channel and a mailing list from? > > Sounds like bristol wireless might be able to help with that last one > - would that be okay? > > Ale > > -- ---------- Mike Harris Mobile UK: +44 (0) 7811 671 893 Mobile Es: +34 696 763 122 PGP: http://mbharris.co.uk/mike.gpg.pub From skoria at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 02:35:18 2008 From: skoria at gmail.com (Ale Fernandez) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:13 2008 Subject: BW )(: A mailing list/IRC channel? In-Reply-To: <487E54D9.90509@slackmail.co.uk> References: <547aa2c40807160928h32d7dfcew70d5b6ccd9dea100@mail.gmail.com> <487E54D9.90509@slackmail.co.uk> Message-ID: <487F1256.6060305@gmail.com> Great Mike - thanks! You'll hear from him soon. And when a beer? Next week at some point? No sunday roast for me this week though - I'm going to a south american dinner party - so will be cooking all sunday I think!! Ale Mike Harris wrote: > b) did I know of anywhere he could run an IRC channel and a mailing list > from? > > He would be welcome to use the Psand irc server that provides the #clan > channel, he can pop in to irc.psand.net and just join it and hey presto. > > For a mailing list, I could set one up for him using the mail server, > just get him to email me with what he requires to mike@slackmail.co.uk. > > Cheers, > > Mike. > > Ale Fernandez wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm trying to put together a meeting/show and tell of all the people >> who do different kinds of online exchange systems in and around >> Bristol - like Freeconomy, Feral Trade and timebank. >> >> In doing this I've met a guy called Gary Alexander, who has a plone >> based community exchange system he now wants to take further and make >> into a web application running off a local machine that local groups >> can use, but that also lets the different groups sell and trade >> between each other. >> >> http://dissconnected.net/about-us/about-exchange >> >> So he asked me: He's just getting a team together to work on packaging >> the current system into a product, and then working on the next >> generation of it all. >> >> a) does anyone want to help, if they have plone experience and >> b) did I know of anywhere he could run an IRC channel and a mailing >> list from? >> >> Sounds like bristol wireless might be able to help with that last one >> - would that be okay? >> >> Ale >> >> > From marcus at irational.org Thu Jul 17 02:51:27 2008 From: marcus at irational.org (Marcus Valentine) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:13 2008 Subject: BW )(: SSL certificate provision Message-ID: <487F161F.8070708@irational.org> Apparently Firefox 3 is much pickier with regard to self signed SSL certs, so I'm thinking that the cube should get a signed one. Any recommendations for providers? Is this something on BW's road map of services? Thanks Marcus From ben at bristolwireless.net Thu Jul 17 03:04:20 2008 From: ben at bristolwireless.net (ben@bristolwireless.net) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:14 2008 Subject: BW )(: SSL certificate provision In-Reply-To: <487F161F.8070708@irational.org> References: <487F161F.8070708@irational.org> Message-ID: <20080717110420.yx4xt3650cw8ks8o@slackmail.co.uk> Quoting Marcus Valentine : > Apparently Firefox 3 is much pickier with regard to self signed SSL > certs, so I'm thinking that the cube should get a signed one. Any > recommendations for providers? Is this something on BW's road map of > services? > > Thanks > > Marcus > Depends what you mean by "pickier", one has to go through more dialogs to get a bad certificate to work. If you want to take an anti-corporate stance on the whole certificates issue, and I mention this as we are talking about the cube, use http://www.cacert.org/ . Users of many browsers will need to install the root certificate themselves, but it's a very simple process, and bring root certification within community control. == From Ben Green ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From skoria at gmail.com Thu Jul 17 04:22:38 2008 From: skoria at gmail.com (Ale Fernandez) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:14 2008 Subject: BW )(: SSL certificate provision In-Reply-To: <20080717110420.yx4xt3650cw8ks8o@slackmail.co.uk> References: <487F161F.8070708@irational.org> <20080717110420.yx4xt3650cw8ks8o@slackmail.co.uk> Message-ID: <487F2B7E.1020103@gmail.com> ben@bristolwireless.net wrote: > If you want to take an anti-corporate stance on the whole certificates > issue, and I mention this as we are talking about the cube, use > http://www.cacert.org/ . Users of many browsers will need to install the > root certificate themselves, but it's a very simple process, and bring > root certification within community control. > > == Oooh that's one of the ugliest forms I've seen in a long while. That site - or just the process for getting a cert - needs to be prettied up and simplified a bit if the general public's going to understand it. Ale From allen at bristolwireless.net Thu Jul 17 06:55:19 2008 From: allen at bristolwireless.net (Allen Coates) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:14 2008 Subject: BW )(: A mailing list/IRC channel? In-Reply-To: <547aa2c40807160928h32d7dfcew70d5b6ccd9dea100@mail.gmail.com> References: <547aa2c40807160928h32d7dfcew70d5b6ccd9dea100@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080717145519.mj7yunhr4g4s088s@slackmail.co.uk> Quoting Ale Fernandez : > Hi, > > I'm trying to put together a meeting/show and tell of all the people > who do different kinds of online exchange systems in and around > Bristol - like Freeconomy, Feral Trade and timebank. > > In doing this I've met a guy called Gary Alexander, who has a plone > based community exchange system he now wants to take further and make > into a web application running off a local machine that local groups > can use, but that also lets the different groups sell and trade > between each other. > <> About ten years ago I was a member of Bishopston LETS (Local Exchange Trading System) - a physical system based on writing "cheques" in a dummy currency. They also had an Inter-LETS system to trade between the half-dozen groups around the Bristol area. Bishopston LETS are still operating (just), and I could get a message to them if you wanted. Also, while I had my dial-up ASCII Bulletin board running, I also operated LETS-Net, using fido technology I was working on a user interface to record transactions "online". FWIW, if any of this old-hat knowledge is of use then give me a shout. Allen ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From mike at slackmail.co.uk Thu Jul 17 09:12:42 2008 From: mike at slackmail.co.uk (Mike Harris) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:14 2008 Subject: BW )(: A mailing list/IRC channel? In-Reply-To: <487F1256.6060305@gmail.com> References: <547aa2c40807160928h32d7dfcew70d5b6ccd9dea100@mail.gmail.com> <487E54D9.90509@slackmail.co.uk> <487F1256.6060305@gmail.com> Message-ID: <487F6F7A.4070602@slackmail.co.uk> Hi Ale. Cool mate. Nah, don't do the sunday roast through the summer, I'll be at Glade anyways. Sometime towards the end of the week let's do a drink, perhaps a bit of a jam in this famous back garden of yours? M Ale Fernandez wrote: > Great Mike - thanks! You'll hear from him soon. And when a beer? Next > week at some point? No sunday roast for me this week though - I'm going > to a south american dinner party - so will be cooking all sunday I think!! > > Ale > > Mike Harris wrote: >> b) did I know of anywhere he could run an IRC channel and a mailing >> list from? >> >> He would be welcome to use the Psand irc server that provides the >> #clan channel, he can pop in to irc.psand.net and just join it and hey >> presto. >> >> For a mailing list, I could set one up for him using the mail server, >> just get him to email me with what he requires to mike@slackmail.co.uk. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Mike. >> >> Ale Fernandez wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm trying to put together a meeting/show and tell of all the people >>> who do different kinds of online exchange systems in and around >>> Bristol - like Freeconomy, Feral Trade and timebank. >>> >>> In doing this I've met a guy called Gary Alexander, who has a plone >>> based community exchange system he now wants to take further and make >>> into a web application running off a local machine that local groups >>> can use, but that also lets the different groups sell and trade >>> between each other. >>> >>> http://dissconnected.net/about-us/about-exchange >>> >>> So he asked me: He's just getting a team together to work on packaging >>> the current system into a product, and then working on the next >>> generation of it all. >>> >>> a) does anyone want to help, if they have plone experience and >>> b) did I know of anywhere he could run an IRC channel and a mailing >>> list from? >>> >>> Sounds like bristol wireless might be able to help with that last one >>> - would that be okay? >>> >>> Ale >>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Bristolwireless mailing list > Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > > -- ---------- Mike Harris Mobile UK: +44 (0) 7811 671 893 Mobile Es: +34 696 763 122 PGP: http://mbharris.co.uk/mike.gpg.pub From seankenny at gmail.com Thu Jul 31 01:55:35 2008 From: seankenny at gmail.com (sean) Date: Wed Aug 20 07:18:14 2008 Subject: BW )(: Fwd: Recent changes to the Suppliers Directory In-Reply-To: <200807291810.m6TIAtJM004431@suppliersdirectory.org.uk> References: <200807291810.m6TIAtJM004431@suppliersdirectory.org.uk> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Suppliers Directory Date: Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:10 PM Subject: Recent changes to the Suppliers Directory To: seankenny@gmail.com Dear Supplier, As someone with a published listing in the Suppliers Directory we need to let you know about recent changes in the funding of this service, and ask for your feedback and support. 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