From seankenny at gmail.com Fri Jan 4 11:11:39 2008 From: seankenny at gmail.com (Sean Kenny) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 03:11:39 -0800 Subject: BW )(: =?windows-1256?q?=5BUpdated_Invitation=5D_pm_-_Bristol_Wi?= =?windows-1256?q?reless_monthly_meeting_=40_Tue_8_Jan_18=3A30_=96_?= =?windows-1256?q?20=3A00_=28bristolwireless=40lists=2Epsand=2Enet?= =?windows-1256?q?=29?= Message-ID: <0016e644cd9e0442e393153e51c58509@google.com> Details for the following event have changed: Title: pm - Bristol Wireless monthly meeting Time: Tue 8 Jan 18:30 ? 20:00 (London) Calendar: bristolwireless at lists.psand.net Description: Deferred until the 8th? 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A BarCamp, sometimes called an ?unconference?, is an event which the participants organise themselves. The BarCamp for the re-use request service will be on Saturday 12th January 2008, at the Spey & Ness Rooms, City Inn, 30 John Islip Street, Westminster, London. All people need to do to come is log on to the Wiki, add their names and shape the agenda: http://barcamp.org/BarCampPOIR8 Speaking about the event, John Sheridan said, ?we?ve opted for a BarCamp format - sometimes called an ?unconference? - as the most open, participative and democratic way to engage with potential re- users of public sector information. OPSI has arranged the venue (Spey & Ness Rooms, City Inn, 30 John Islip Street, Westminster, London) and an outline agenda - but really we would like the re-user community to shape the day as part of shaping this new and exciting public service.? Background notes ? 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Registered in England & Wales, Registration No: 6040154 11 St Marks Road, Stourbridge, West Midlands, DY9 7DT Northern Office: 4, Hollins Green, Bradwall, Cheshire, CW10 0LA. Welsh office/Swyddfa Gogledd Cymru: e-mail / e-bost - cymru at M6-IT.org _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From matthew at m6-it.org Wed Jan 9 21:39:14 2008 From: matthew at m6-it.org (Matthew Edmondson) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 21:39:14 +0000 Subject: BW )(: stunning victory In-Reply-To: <200801071623.30256.matthew@m6-it.org> References: <200801071623.30256.matthew@m6-it.org> Message-ID: <200801092139.14813.matthew@m6-it.org> http://transmission.cc/ -- Matthew Edmondson matthew at M6-IT.org Consultant www.M6-IT.org M6-IT CIC 07807487470 0117 9510812 Sustainable Third Sector IT solutions. PRINCE2[TM] Project Management Web services * Back-ups * Support * Training & Certification * E-Mail M6-IT is a Community Interest Company, limited by guarantee. Registered in England & Wales, Registration No: 6040154 11 St Marks Road, Stourbridge, West Midlands, DY9 7DT Northern Office: 4, Hollins Green, Bradwall, Cheshire, CW10 0LA. Welsh office/Swyddfa Gogledd Cymru: e-mail / e-bost - cymru at M6-IT.org _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From petef at bristolwireless.net Wed Jan 16 16:04:30 2008 From: petef at bristolwireless.net (Peter Ferne) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:04:30 +0000 Subject: BW )(: Weird cyclical lag pinging access point Message-ID: We've just got a new ADSL2 connection in the Jiva office which works fine over wired ethernet but is behaving very strangely on the wireless. There's a ten to thirty second lag before a page loads. Once it starts loading it's very quick (c.12Mbps) but the horrendous latency is a killer. As I said this only happens when connecting wirelessly. It's a Speedtouch (536 IIRC) wireless router and when I ping it I get the following cyclical pattern: PING 192.168.1.254 (192.168.1.254): 56 data bytes 1361.759 372.038 1.954 1.768 1055.497 1360.370 363.406 1.112 1.210 1354.161 361.835 2.917 1.314 1054.297 369.234 1.593 1.291 1053.876 1357.369 371.639 1.319 1.246 If I ping it on a wired connection I get a steady c. 1ms ping time. Given that it's only a few feet away with a clear line of sight does anybody have any idea what might cause such *huge* variation in ping times over the course of a few seconds (c. 20s for the output above)? I've had Be tech support on the phone and they got me to turn off a few checks by telnetting into the router: {Administrator}=>firewall config tcpchecks=none {Administrator}=>firewall config udpchecks=disabled {Administrator}=>dsd config state=disabled {Administrator}=>ids config state=disabled {Administrator}=>ids config trace=disabled {Administrator}=>saveall {Administrator}=>exit and to try switching to a different channel (although iStumbler shows no conflicting networks on nearby channels) neither of which seem to have had any affect at all. Any suggestions gratefully received TIA -- petef _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From lloyd at bristolwireless.net Wed Jan 16 17:57:58 2008 From: lloyd at bristolwireless.net (Lloyd Cohen) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:57:58 +0000 Subject: BW )(: Weird cyclical lag pinging access point In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <478E45A6.9040101@bristolwireless.net> Peter Ferne wrote: > We've just got a new ADSL2 connection in the Jiva office which works > fine over wired ethernet but is behaving very strangely on the > wireless. There's a ten to thirty second lag before a page loads. Once > it starts loading it's very quick (c.12Mbps) but the horrendous > latency is a killer. > > As I said this only happens when connecting wirelessly. It's a > Speedtouch (536 IIRC) wireless router and when I ping it I get the > following cyclical pattern: > > PING 192.168.1.254 (192.168.1.254): 56 data bytes > 1361.759 > 372.038 > 1.954 > 1.768 > 1055.497 > 1360.370 > 363.406 > 1.112 > 1.210 > 1354.161 > 361.835 > 2.917 > 1.314 > 1054.297 > 369.234 > 1.593 > 1.291 > 1053.876 > 1357.369 > 371.639 > 1.319 > 1.246 > > If I ping it on a wired connection I get a steady c. 1ms ping time. > > Given that it's only a few feet away with a clear line of sight does > anybody have any idea what might cause such *huge* variation in ping > times over the course of a few seconds (c. 20s for the output above)? To me this looks suspiciously un-varied. It repeats every 4-5s, suggesting to me that there's an issue in the data layer. Remember that a ping uses the transport layer, which queues packets up and passes them to the data layer (wireless protocols, CSMA/CD etc) for transmission. Those ping times suggest a flaw at this level where communications are dropping and take between 2 and 3 seconds to begin talking again. Packets sit in the transport queue while this renegotiation occurs, then flow through, after which things are fine for a couple of seconds. Then the data link drops, and renegotiation must be completed once again... > I've had Be tech support on the phone and they got me to turn off a > few checks by telnetting into the router: > > {Administrator}=>firewall config tcpchecks=none > {Administrator}=>firewall config udpchecks=disabled > {Administrator}=>dsd config state=disabled > {Administrator}=>ids config state=disabled > {Administrator}=>ids config trace=disabled > {Administrator}=>saveall > {Administrator}=>exit > > and to try switching to a different channel (although iStumbler shows > no conflicting networks on nearby channels) neither of which seem to > have had any affect at all. You haven't said whether you've used more than one client - this could be an issue with your laptop, or as you'd probably know about it if it were broken more likely a conflict between the way it's hardware and that within the router speak wireless protocol. Or perhaps you get the same results with any client regardless of hardware, singling out the AP as needing returning/a call out. Either way, updating drivers and flashing the AP with the most up-to-date firmware is about all you can do without getting it replaced, or replacing it yourself. Does the Speedtouch thing have an ADSL input, or is the ADSL modem seperate? If you can, I'd dump the thing for a Linksys WRT54GL ethernet/wireless router running latest OpenWRT Kamikaze. In any environment where the connection is heavily used by multiple people, a combination of the traffic shaping/QoS within a new linux kernel together with the customisations OpenWRT use to take advantage of these features quickly make the thing worth it's ?40 pricetag. -- Lloyd Cohen BristolWireless Infrastructure _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From hamish at axiomtech.co.uk Wed Jan 16 20:00:57 2008 From: hamish at axiomtech.co.uk (Hamish) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:00:57 +0000 Subject: BW )(: Fracking stuff In-Reply-To: <478E45A6.9040101@bristolwireless.net> References: <478E45A6.9040101@bristolwireless.net> Message-ID: <200801162000.57439.hamish@axiomtech.co.uk> I have a Bristol Wireless device here. Looks like a power over ethernet to the antenna or summat. I am moving out so please come and get it ASAP. AS i think about it, I also cant bothered with any stuff anymore. So I have a large amount of really good stuff to throw away. Please come and collect on Friday or Saturday. Books most as new - Iain M Banks, Stephen King, many O'Reilly, A-Press etc. ethical hacking, snort php mysql and acid, blah blah blah blah Much of an operational computer workshop. rack 10 gang, surge protect, crimps, cat5e - lots, labeller etc. (two cables for the 8:2 Belkin KVM already in Evertons room. If you have anything of mine - for instance my fracking BIKE PUMP or my original TANK GIRL POSTER then please drop them off and all will be forgiven (otherwise ungodly servants will be unleashed on thy soul) Sample of my stuff to be outthrown/collected by you:- collection of dispoable lighters. wood for building or burning. Car battery - was good Marine battery - also good - needs a charge. Some mugs - inc. one metal one. a nice washing machine, an operators (high) chair firebrick (www.firebrick.co.uk) no power supply - but was very cool for its time. fire extinguisher bike leathers and lots of clothes, coats etc. BRAND new proper deck shoes - only to sailors (size 10.5) many pairs. large collection of really naff ties. the most comfortable chair in the world. two new to me pure new wool rugs of questionable design/colour. brand new car cover - large Hoover - henry style. speaker set, cheap. bass bin, powered, jack. the usual old rack mount servers a phat gaming desktop. ok so it was phat 2/3 years ago, stack of blank dvd's a couple of switches, small cheap. one classy netgear. cyder container - empty (dry) 1 2-way radio and charger - BT. MUCH stationary - file hangers etc. short length of poly prop bottle jack paint (various) laser printer and spare cartridge 3 small pots of 'tester' paint. two rugs/prayer mats ( my grandad didnt know what they were) remember this is only an example, come and see what treasures you can find. if anyone wants to give me a hand getting the stuff to the dump then that would be most appreciated. Matthew Edmondson matthew at M6-IT.org Consultant www.M6-IT.org M6-IT CIC 07807487470 0117 9510812 Sustainable Third Sector IT solutions. PRINCE2[TM] Project Management Web services * Back-ups * Support * Training & Certification * E-Mail M6-IT is a Community Interest Company, limited by guarantee. Registered in England & Wales, Registration No: 6040154 11 St Marks Road, Stourbridge, West Midlands, DY9 7DT Northern Office: 4, Hollins Green, Bradwall, Cheshire, CW10 0LA. Welsh office/Swyddfa Gogledd Cymru: e-mail / e-bost - cymru at M6-IT.org _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From petef at bristolwireless.net Thu Jan 17 10:23:38 2008 From: petef at bristolwireless.net (Peter Ferne) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:23:38 +0000 Subject: BW )(: Weird cyclical lag pinging access point In-Reply-To: <478E45A6.9040101@bristolwireless.net> References: <478E45A6.9040101@bristolwireless.net> Message-ID: <3746C1EB-FDFA-4483-9A39-26CE50AF06A4@bristolwireless.net> On 16 Jan 2008, at 17:57, Lloyd Cohen wrote: > To me this looks suspiciously un-varied. It repeats every 4-5s, > suggesting to me that there's an issue in the data layer... Aha, that makes sense. > You haven't said whether you've used more than one client - this > could be an issue with your laptop, or as you'd probably know about > it if it were broken more likely a conflict between the way it's > hardware and that within the router speak wireless protocol. Hmm, it does only happen with my laptop. The other two, both also macs but different models get steady 1ms pings. My laptop is fine on the network at home (which uses an airport extreme as the AP). > Does the Speedtouch thing have an ADSL input, or is the ADSL modem > seperate? If you can, I'd dump the thing for a Linksys WRT54GL > ethernet/wireless router running latest OpenWRT Kamikaze. In any > environment where the connection is heavily used by multiple people, > a combination of the traffic shaping/QoS within a new linux kernel > together with the customisations OpenWRT use to take advantage of > these features quickly make the thing worth it's ?40 pricetag. It is all in one so that might be a good idea. Thanks Lloyd -- petef _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From stuart.ward at bcs.org Fri Jan 18 00:05:36 2008 From: stuart.ward at bcs.org (Stuart Ward) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:05:36 +0000 Subject: BW )(: Weird cyclical lag pinging access point In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <478FED50.5010909@bcs.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Peter Ferne said the following on 16/01/08 16:04: | We've just got a new ADSL2 connection in the Jiva office which works | fine over wired ethernet but is behaving very strangely on the wireless. | There's a ten to thirty second lag before a page loads. Once it starts | loading it's very quick (c.12Mbps) but the horrendous latency is a killer. | | As I said this only happens when connecting wirelessly. It's a | Speedtouch (536 IIRC) wireless router and when I ping it I get the | following cyclical pattern: | | PING 192.168.1.254 (192.168.1.254): 56 data bytes | 1361.759 | 372.038 | 1.954 | 1.768 | 1055.497 | 1360.370 | 363.406 | 1.112 I would have said it was radio interference. Try using a different channel - -- Stuart -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHj+1QJGaHnCySEGwRAjLfAKD4mPLxW7JoGo8kBGWkAwC2355jvgCeJ5qV uQE6NBF1gf3Ypgy3Pc1kWlA= =jhao -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From mjr at phonecoop.coop Wed Jan 23 17:09:26 2008 From: mjr at phonecoop.coop (MJ Ray) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:09:26 +0000 Subject: BW )(: Archive of this list Message-ID: <479774c6.mKd3/QiW4ZFVarAF%mjr@phonecoop.coop> Hi - can someone fix the list archive links on http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bw-announce please? (I just realised why I hadn't seen the social source info in the bw-announce archives...) Thanks, -- MJ Ray http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html tel:+44-844-4437-237 - Webmaster-developer, statistician, sysadmin, online shop builder, consumer and workers co-operative member http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ - Writing on koha, debian, sat TV, Kewstoke http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From mbh at psand.net Wed Jan 23 19:34:23 2008 From: mbh at psand.net (Mike Harris) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:34:23 +0000 Subject: BW )(: Archive of this list In-Reply-To: <479774c6.mKd3/QiW4ZFVarAF%mjr@phonecoop.coop> References: <479774c6.mKd3/QiW4ZFVarAF%mjr@phonecoop.coop> Message-ID: <479796BF.9090509@psand.net> Hi MJ Ray, Yes it's broken at the moment and has been for ages!! We kind of agreed yonks ago to forego archives anyway, hence this hasn't been a problem for quite a long time. However the whole archiving thing does need fixing on the list server and if there's a general move to wanting them, then they can come back. In short, I'm faffing, but erm, yes known problem, will get on to it. Cheers, Mike. MJ Ray wrote: > Hi - can someone fix the list archive links on > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bw-announce > please? (I just realised why I hadn't seen the social source > info in the bw-announce archives...) > > Thanks, -- ---------- Mike Harris Psand.net Tlf: +44 7811 671 893 / +34 69 676 3122 / +44 870 162 4927 ext 2 Fax: +44 870 162 4925 Web: http://psand.net PGP: http://www.psand.net/mike/mike.gpg.pub IRC: irc://irc.psand.net:6667/#psand ---------- Psand Limited is registered in England and Wales company number 03291616. Registered office: 21 St Thomas Street, Bristol, BS1 6JS, UK. _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From mjr at phonecoop.coop Thu Jan 24 10:47:04 2008 From: mjr at phonecoop.coop (MJ Ray) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:47:04 +0000 Subject: BW )(: Archive of this list In-Reply-To: <479796BF.9090509@psand.net> References: <479774c6.mKd3/QiW4ZFVarAF%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <479796BF.9090509@psand.net> Message-ID: <47986ca8.CHApQXOV4CQy9rJZ%mjr@phonecoop.coop> Mike Harris wrote: > We kind of agreed yonks ago to forego archives anyway, hence this hasn't > been a problem for quite a long time. > > However the whole archiving thing does need fixing on the list server > and if there's a general move to wanting them, then they can come back. The announce list was the major concern - I was aware that I'd said I'd subscribe back last year and hadn't done it to this year, so wanted to check I hadn't missed any announcements. If you're going to forego archives, remove the links or put a useful 404 page up where they should be. Either way, as you like. Thanks, -- MJ Ray http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html tel:+44-844-4437-237 - Webmaster-developer, statistician, sysadmin, online shop builder, consumer and workers co-operative member http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ - Writing on koha, debian, sat TV, Kewstoke http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From mbh at psand.net Thu Jan 24 18:00:31 2008 From: mbh at psand.net (Mike Harris) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:00:31 +0000 Subject: BW )(: Archive of this list In-Reply-To: <47986ca8.CHApQXOV4CQy9rJZ%mjr@phonecoop.coop> References: <479774c6.mKd3/QiW4ZFVarAF%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <479796BF.9090509@psand.net> <47986ca8.CHApQXOV4CQy9rJZ%mjr@phonecoop.coop> Message-ID: <4798D23F.2020307@psand.net> Hi there, Am working on this, hopefully in the next couple of days. This is more like a test message to see if this message ends up in the archive or not. If anyone out that has experience with Mailman and list archiving then that'd be good to know. Also if anyone's got any experience with Lurker and linking the two together. Cheers, Mike. MJ Ray wrote: > Mike Harris wrote: >> We kind of agreed yonks ago to forego archives anyway, hence this hasn't >> been a problem for quite a long time. >> >> However the whole archiving thing does need fixing on the list server >> and if there's a general move to wanting them, then they can come back. > > The announce list was the major concern - I was aware that I'd said > I'd subscribe back last year and hadn't done it to this year, so > wanted to check I hadn't missed any announcements. > > If you're going to forego archives, remove the links or put a useful > 404 page up where they should be. > > Either way, as you like. > > Thanks, -- ---------- Mike Harris Psand.net Tlf: +44 7811 671 893 / +34 69 676 3122 / +44 870 162 4927 ext 2 Fax: +44 870 162 4925 Web: http://psand.net PGP: http://www.psand.net/mike/mike.gpg.pub IRC: irc://irc.psand.net:6667/#psand ---------- Psand Limited is registered in England and Wales company number 03291616. Registered office: 21 St Thomas Street, Bristol, BS1 6JS, UK. _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From sam at bristolwireless.net Thu Jan 24 22:32:11 2008 From: sam at bristolwireless.net (sam at bristolwireless.net) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:32:11 +0000 Subject: BW )(: Second Life - Gig + Venue preview tonight!! Message-ID: <1201213931.479911eb32fd2@www.slackmail.co.uk> Hi all As many of you will know Bristol Wireless are partners in the http://www.xtreamlab.net/ project. On Sat Febuary 23rd we are running DROID at Trinity. Droid is an experiment in bringing the real and virtual worlds face to face. (press release below) 1) There is an opportunity to get a sneak preview of the (virtual) venue on Friday 25th (tonight). Our project partners http://www.moebiussurfing.net/ are running a live gig at Prados Azules; it runs from 21.30 GMT. For those of you that have not yet checked out Second life, it is a great opportunity to take a look around and support our project partners. Sign up and download the software at www.secondlife.com, then use the search function to find Prados Azules. 2) We are looking to recruit crew for the event on the 23rd Feb. There are lot's of opportunities to get involved. Possible roles include; * Sound Tech. * Sourcing and setting up 2X second life terminals in the venue. * Researcher roles * Decor sourcing and hanging * logistics * flyering Volunteers will get free entry into the event and other fabulous perks. We are currently finalising the roles so if you would like to get involved then email xtreamlab at lists.psand.net by 1st Febuary at the latest. 3) Press release. Flyers; http://www.xtreamlab.net/wiki/index.php/Images_for_DROID_Event LUKE VIBERT (Warp / Rephlex) VARIOUS PRODUCTION DJs BASS CLEF + VEXKIDDY + more acts & DJs & VJs + Second Life Interventions at: D.R.O.I.D A Cyber-Kinetic Second Life Experience + VJs and cyberpunk interfacing On: SAT 23rd FEB 2008 REAL LIFE VENUE: TRINITY, Old Market, BRISTOL SECOND LIFE VENUE: Prados Azules TIME: 8pm till late PRICE: ?6 in advance / more on the door. WEB: http://www.xtreamlab.net/droid D.R.O.I.D is a club: big and heavy. An extraordinary occasion featuring a stellar cast of 21st century dance music from top draw live guests, DJs and some virtual avatar stars. The line up is blistering in the bass end with super high end tweaks ? be it filthy house, dubstep-not-dubstep, mutant breaks, electro-techno or of course Victorian Acid House. Seriously giant screens transform the club by hijacking the world of Second Life and setting it loose in a real life environment, with live streams and killer VJ pyrotechnics. This is where the live computer generation display their wares - trombone action, crazed techno cabaret shows, filter sweeps and urban music from across the globe liven up the place. The technology is set loose for future funk, and hang on in there. D.R.O.I.D is an event to challenge our reality, what we perceive to be the here and now and what we think of as the future-distant. The club event will take place simultaneously in the digitised world of Second Life, and as a consequence of this, across the known world. The line-up at the Trinity will be streamed live into Second Life, where avatars will be able to enjoy the sights and sounds of the night. At the Trinity huge suspended, back-projected screens will show the audience the virtual world of Second Life. There will also be ?interaction terminals? in the hall to allow participants to hit the dancefloor in the virtual domain. The aim is for the two audiences, the physical and the digital, to get to know each other, dance the mad dance. How many technophobes out there have never spoken to their virtual brothers and sisters? How many of the new wired generation have never left the confines of their virtual reality interfaces to interact with the rest of us? Greater understanding is what we seek, together we shall stand, shoulder to digitised shoulder... LUKE VIBERT is the ultimate UK dancefloor chameleon, who has spent nearly twenty years atop the leftfield dance game, ceaselessly morphing identities from his own name (billowing acid house and breakbeat) into Wagon Christ (kitchen sink cartoon-hop), Plug (quirky drum 'n' bass), Amen Andrews (junglist tear-out), Spac Hand Luke (grimey goodness), and Kerrier District (glitterball disco/house) along with countless other aliases, remixes and collaborations with the likes of Aphex Twin, BJ Cole and Jean-Jacques Perry. No other artist can boast the full set of influential dance labels, either: that's Mo'Wax, Warp, Ninja Tune, Rephlex and Planet Mu. As a DJ he goes wherever the mood takes him, and the floor will always follow: multidimensional, freerange fucked-up grooves from the original Cornish king. http://www.warprecords.com/lukevibert/ VARIOUS PRODUCTION DJs are a shadowy collective of retro-futurists who released a album on the phat XL (Radiohead, Dizzee Rascal, The White Stripes), a nameless, faceless collective of producers and vocalists who have left a trail of acclaimed and covetable singles in their wake. Their unique sound - noir-ish folk over mangled grime, deep dub and spooky beats - seems to refract the ?Bristol sound? of Portishead or Massive Attack through a hall of mirrors and update it for the 21st century. One of the most thrilling electronic pop outfits to have emerged in years, they sit alone with Burial in taking rough-edged dubstep sonics overground by marrying them with a sweet pop sensibility. They are an act steeped in mystery who refuse to be pigeon-holed, and this DJ set ? their Bristol debut - will reflect this genre-bucking playfulness. Expect the unexpected. http://www.various.co.uk/ http://www.myspace.com/various SECOND LIFE: Influenced by the cyperpunk literary movement, and most notably by the Neil Stephenson novel Snow Crash, Second Life is a 3-D virtual world that can be accessed on-line using a computer program called the Second Life Viewer. To take part in Second Life, a user must become a Resident by creating their own virtual counterpart known as an avatar. The Residents are then able to shape the virtual world itself by creating objects, buildings and even whole landscapes. The virtual world has its own currency, and the Residents may also buy, sell and trade items that they create. Second Life first opened to the public in 2003 by Linden Research, Inc and has since grown to have millions of Residents from around the globe, tens of thousands of which can be found to be on-line at any one time. Second Life is so cutting-edge it defies genre classification. It is a game, a tool, a playground, a nation, and whole new world for human social interaction and development. BASS CLEF live is a blast. With live trombone and pirate flags, he bypasses laptop/looping and embraces a primitive and banging multi-instrumentalism with ringing cow-bell, heavy trombone blasts and effects all spicing up his wonky digidub, electronic dubstep. Ralph (formally RLF) has shared stages with Konono No 1, Appleblim, Pinch, Kode 9, and Digital Mystikz. A rogue operator of the bottom end kind. His live show is a heady combination of heavy bass, dirty high end and killer melodies. Kinda like 'Rahsaan Roland Kirk' jamming with 'Iration Steppas' on a full moon. http://www.myspace.com/bassclefbass http://bass-clef.blogspot.com/ VEXKIDDY are a show and a half. They bang up the place with messed up dance music via Victorian time travel mixed with an acid house sideshow. Cuthbert & Strangeways, two serious 'scientists' from the Victorian era, go in search of Vexkiddy, an interstellar being who has wrought havoc with the time flux polyphase generator that their assistant 'Trainee' was using.... 'Trainee' is still lost in future-time... will they ever reach him? Fuck knows, but it sounds like a 21st century rave or they have been hangin? too long in Second Life. http://www.vexkiddy.com/ http://www.myspace.com/therhomworkshop D.R.O.I.D crew Bristol Wireless: http://www.bristolwireless.net Micro Film: http://www.micro-film.org Q-Junktions: http://www.qujunktions.com Psand: http://www.psand.net First Born Creatives: http://www.firstborn-creatives.co.uk Blackout Arts: http://www.blackoutarts.co.uk Moebius Surfing: http://www.moebiussurfing.net (SL) Mosi - Mosi: http://www.mosi-mosi.com/metaverse (SL) Pitch Volley: http://www.pitchvolley.com (SL) Radio Vague: http://www.radiovague.com (SL) Event production is a collaboration between XtreamLab.Net Ltd and Etherspace Broadcasting Ltd with the grateful support of South West Screen. TICKET OUTLETS: Bristol Ticket Shop / Here Shop (Stokes Croft) / 20th Century Flicks (Clifton) / Rooted Records CREDIT CARD BOOKINGS: 0870 4444 400 / http://www.bristolticketshop.co.uk ================================ --------------------------------------------- This email message was delivered by Psand.net _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From matthew at truthisfreedom.org.uk Thu Jan 24 17:24:16 2008 From: matthew at truthisfreedom.org.uk (Matthew Macdonald-Wallace) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:24:16 +0000 Subject: BW )(: [Fwd: [ubuntu-uk] Opensource Event in Brizzol - 5 February] Message-ID: <1201195456.7048.4.camel@lappy.interactwiththe.net> Thought you might like this... M -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: Pete Stean > Reply-To: British Ubuntu Talk > To: ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com > Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Opensource Event in Brizzol - 5 February > Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:17:34 +0000 > > Is anyone from Ubuntu UK involved in this? Quite an opportunity for > some blatant self-promotion of the Ubuntu brand if anyone is... > > http://www.bristolwireless.net/wiki/index.php/SocialSourceSouthWest > > Probably worth going along to anyway if you're in the area I would have thought > > > (btw check out yet another logo that looks very similar to Ubuntu Studio's...) > > Pete > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check out me new blog @ http://peteste.blogspot.com > -- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace matthew at truthisfreedom.org.uk Please use ISO Approved file formats (.odt/.ods/.odp/.odg/.pdf) for attachments. If you wish to convert legacy Microsoft documents to these formats, please use Open Office (http://www.openoffice.org/) From mbh at psand.net Fri Jan 25 10:30:38 2008 From: mbh at psand.net (Mike Harris) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:30:38 +0000 Subject: BW )(: Archive of this list In-Reply-To: <4799acbb.nCLsHEhKotsjFfOG%mjr@phonecoop.coop> References: <479774c6.mKd3/QiW4ZFVarAF%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <479796BF.9090509@psand.net> <47986ca8.CHApQXOV4CQy9rJZ%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <4798D23F.2020307@psand.net> <4799acbb.nCLsHEhKotsjFfOG%mjr@phonecoop.coop> Message-ID: <4799BA4E.3010109@psand.net> Hi, Am getting there actually, have recovered some of the list. http://lists.psand.net/pipermail/bristolwireless/ It would be good to get ALL the old mail back for historical reasons. Anyone out there have all the list email going back to May 2002? If so, I will need it in mbox format (that's the format that Thunderbird and Pine store email in) and probably best to gzip it. If you have then email me directly and I can give you FTP details for somewhere to upload it. ALSO: we have the issue of the bw-announce list. I am not on this and so don't have any of the mail. Does anyone have this also so that I can restore it? And finally Lurker, well once I've got mailman archiving properly then I'll have a good look into this. Cheers, Mike. MJ Ray wrote: > Mike Harris wrote: >> If anyone out that has experience with Mailman and list archiving then >> that'd be good to know. Also if anyone's got any experience with Lurker >> and linking the two together. > > Not a recent version and I'd like to update my Mailman skills, but it > will be week after next, probably - let me know. 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From bails at westcomuk.com Fri Jan 25 11:01:10 2008 From: bails at westcomuk.com (bails) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:01:10 +0000 Subject: BW )(: Archive of this list In-Reply-To: <4799BA4E.3010109@psand.net> References: <479774c6.mKd3/QiW4ZFVarAF%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <479796BF.9090509@psand.net> <47986ca8.CHApQXOV4CQy9rJZ%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <4798D23F.2020307@psand.net> <4799acbb.nCLsHEhKotsjFfOG%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <4799BA4E.3010109@psand.net> Message-ID: <4799C176.7090705@westcomuk.com> On my Desktop at home is everything until 2005 I'll dig it out and zip it up. Bails Mike Harris wrote: > Hi, > > Am getting there actually, have recovered some of the list. > > http://lists.psand.net/pipermail/bristolwireless/ > > It would be good to get ALL the old mail back for historical reasons. > > Anyone out there have all the list email going back to May 2002? If so, > I will need it in mbox format (that's the format that Thunderbird and > Pine store email in) and probably best to gzip it. If you have then > email me directly and I can give you FTP details for somewhere to upload it. > > ALSO: we have the issue of the bw-announce list. I am not on this and > so don't have any of the mail. Does anyone have this also so that I can > restore it? > > And finally Lurker, well once I've got mailman archiving properly then > I'll have a good look into this. > > Cheers, > > Mike. > > MJ Ray wrote: >> Mike Harris wrote: >>> If anyone out that has experience with Mailman and list archiving then >>> that'd be good to know. Also if anyone's got any experience with Lurker >>> and linking the two together. >> Not a recent version and I'd like to update my Mailman skills, but it >> will be week after next, probably - let me know. I've not worked with >> Lurker, but I know that you have to beware the stylesheets as the >> default ones don't set a foreground colour (and actually, Mailman has >> a similar problem). >> >> Regards, > > From mediamonger at gmail.com Fri Jan 25 12:32:42 2008 From: mediamonger at gmail.com (Richard Higgs) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 04:32:42 -0800 Subject: BW )(: [Updated Invitation] pm - Bristol Wireless monthly meeting @ Thu Feb 7 18:30 - 20:00 (bristolwireless@lists.psand.net) Message-ID: <00c09f9725e604448b27999aa7b79a7@google.com> Details for the following event have changed: Title: pm - Bristol Wireless monthly meeting Time: Thu Feb 7 18:30 - 20:00 (London) Calendar: bristolwireless at lists.psand.net You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=dmVkcmM0c28xdmc3NGVkbWJtNXJ0bjNnMDhfMjAwODAyMDVUMTgzMDAwWiBicmlzdG9sd2lyZWxlc3NAbGlzdHMucHNhbmQubmV0&tok=MzAjYnJpc3RvbHdpcmVsZXNzQGdvb2dsZW1haWwuY29tM2YwNzhlOGVhNTYxMmE0MzYwM2IyY2NhOWZkNTVlMzcyZmIzYjg4Ng&ctz=Europe%2FLondon&hl=en You are receiving this courtesy email at the account bristolwireless at lists.psand.net because you are an attendee of this event. 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Message-ID: IT Trainers needed for Africa and Asia - VSO, the international volunteer sending charity is urgently seeking professional trainers with solid IT technical skills to impart both technical and training know-how to colleagues in developing countries. VSO's 24 month volunteer positions come with full support, training, airfares, accommodation and return airfares. Placements include: Vietnam, Eritrea, Ethiopia, and Ghana. You'll need at least two years experience as a trainer and broad technical skills in IT, such as software, network set-up and trouble shooting. To find out more visit Sophie Bayley Workforce Development Co-ordinator Voscur The CREATE Centre Smeaton Road Bristol BS1 6XN Tel: 0117 909 9949 Fax: 0117 933 0501 Website: www.voscur.org Voscur is a Council for Voluntary Service and a Development Agency for the Voluntary, Community and Social Enterprise Sector in Bristol. Voscur Limited is a not for profit company limited by guarantee. 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Am looking for anyone who has email back to 2002 to offer me a gzipped mbox file of them? http://lists.psand.net/pipermail/bristolwireless/ Cheers, Mike. -- ---------- Mike Harris Psand.net Tlf: +44 7811 671 893 / +34 69 676 3122 / +44 870 162 4927 ext 2 Fax: +44 870 162 4925 Web: http://psand.net PGP: http://www.psand.net/mike/mike.gpg.pub IRC: irc://irc.psand.net:6667/#psand ---------- Psand Limited is registered in England and Wales company number 03291616. Registered office: 21 St Thomas Street, Bristol, BS1 6JS, UK. From mbh at psand.net Wed Jan 30 13:19:25 2008 From: mbh at psand.net (Mike Harris) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:19:25 +0000 Subject: BW )(: Archive of this list In-Reply-To: <479774c6.mKd3/QiW4ZFVarAF%mjr@phonecoop.coop> References: <479774c6.mKd3/QiW4ZFVarAF%mjr@phonecoop.coop> Message-ID: <47A0795D.5050607@psand.net> Hi MJ Ray, Archives of both are now on-line. The announce list archive starts from as of now, so all future posts will get archived. Can I suggest that if you do want to be in the loop for postings, then you subscribe to the bw-announce list just to make sure. Cheers, Mike. MJ Ray wrote: > Hi - can someone fix the list archive links on > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bw-announce > please? (I just realised why I hadn't seen the social source > info in the bw-announce archives...) > > Thanks, -- ---------- Mike Harris Psand.net Tlf: +44 7811 671 893 / +34 69 676 3122 / +44 870 162 4927 ext 2 Fax: +44 870 162 4925 Web: http://psand.net PGP: http://www.psand.net/mike/mike.gpg.pub IRC: irc://irc.psand.net:6667/#psand ---------- Psand Limited is registered in England and Wales company number 03291616. Registered office: 21 St Thomas Street, Bristol, BS1 6JS, UK. From mjr at phonecoop.coop Wed Jan 30 13:51:11 2008 From: mjr at phonecoop.coop (MJ Ray) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:51:11 +0000 Subject: BW )(: Archive of this list In-Reply-To: <47A0795D.5050607@psand.net> References: <479774c6.mKd3/QiW4ZFVarAF%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <47A0795D.5050607@psand.net> Message-ID: <47a080cf.jLRkapLHqobEyQfS%mjr@phonecoop.coop> Mike Harris wrote: > Archives of both are now on-line. The announce list archive starts from > as of now, so all future posts will get archived. > > Can I suggest that if you do want to be in the loop for postings, then > you subscribe to the bw-announce list just to make sure. Thanks. I should be subscribed already. I asked after the archives because I wanted to check the recent postings to bw-announce when joining and I suspect other new joiners will want to do the same. Anyone want to help me test our new TTLLP associates list or a social networking platform? Email me off-list, please... Thanks, -- MJ Ray http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html tel:+44-844-4437-237 - Webmaster-developer, statistician, sysadmin, online shop builder, consumer and workers co-operative member http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ - Writing on koha, debian, sat TV, Kewstoke http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ From seankenny at gmail.com Fri Jan 4 11:11:40 2008 From: seankenny at gmail.com (Sean Kenny) Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 11:11:40 -0000 Subject: BW )(: =?windows-1256?q?=5BUpdated_Invitation=5D_pm_-_Bristol_Wi?= =?windows-1256?q?reless_monthly_meeting_=40_Tue_8_Jan_18=3A30_=96_?= =?windows-1256?q?20=3A00_=28bristolwireless=40lists=2Epsand=2Enet?= =?windows-1256?q?=29?= Message-ID: <0016e644cd9e0442e393153e51c58509@google.com> Details for the following event have changed: Title: pm - Bristol Wireless monthly meeting Time: Tue 8 Jan 18:30 ? 20:00 (London) Calendar: bristolwireless at lists.psand.net Description: Deferred until the 8th? 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The BarCamp for the re-use request service will be on Saturday 12th January 2008, at the Spey & Ness Rooms, City Inn, 30 John Islip Street, Westminster, London. All people need to do to come is log on to the Wiki, add their names and shape the agenda: http://barcamp.org/BarCampPOIR8 Speaking about the event, John Sheridan said, ?we?ve opted for a BarCamp format - sometimes called an ?unconference? - as the most open, participative and democratic way to engage with potential re- users of public sector information. OPSI has arranged the venue (Spey & Ness Rooms, City Inn, 30 John Islip Street, Westminster, London) and an outline agenda - but really we would like the re-user community to shape the day as part of shaping this new and exciting public service.? Background notes ? The creation of a re-use request service by OPSI was recommended by Tom Steinberg and Ed Mayo, in The Power of Information Review, published in June 2007 and agreed by Ministers in the government response presented to Parliament later that month. ? A BarCamp is an ad-hoc gathering born from the desire for people to share and learn in an open environment. It is an intense event with discussions, demos, and interaction from participants. Please feel free to publicise this events and forward to those who may be interested in participating to help steer the development of this initiative. kind regards Giorgia Meletsis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.psand.net/pipermail/bristolwireless/attachments/20080104/ed155fe3/attachment-0001.htm From matthew at m6-it.org Mon Jan 7 16:24:25 2008 From: matthew at m6-it.org (Matthew Edmondson) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:24:25 -0000 Subject: BW )(: stunning victory Message-ID: <200801071623.30256.matthew@m6-it.org> http://events.ccc.de/congress/2007/Fahrplan/events/2387.en.html Open Source people in the Netherlands who have obtained some absolutely stunning victories: -- Matthew Edmondson matthew at M6-IT.org Consultant www.M6-IT.org M6-IT CIC 07807487470 0117 9510812 Sustainable Third Sector IT solutions. PRINCE2[TM] Project Management Web services * Back-ups * Support * Training & Certification * E-Mail M6-IT is a Community Interest Company, limited by guarantee. Registered in England & Wales, Registration No: 6040154 11 St Marks Road, Stourbridge, West Midlands, DY9 7DT Northern Office: 4, Hollins Green, Bradwall, Cheshire, CW10 0LA. Welsh office/Swyddfa Gogledd Cymru: e-mail / e-bost - cymru at M6-IT.org From matthew at m6-it.org Wed Jan 9 21:39:57 2008 From: matthew at m6-it.org (Matthew Edmondson) Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:39:57 -0000 Subject: BW )(: stunning victory In-Reply-To: <200801071623.30256.matthew@m6-it.org> References: <200801071623.30256.matthew@m6-it.org> Message-ID: <200801092139.14813.matthew@m6-it.org> http://transmission.cc/ -- Matthew Edmondson matthew at M6-IT.org Consultant www.M6-IT.org M6-IT CIC 07807487470 0117 9510812 Sustainable Third Sector IT solutions. PRINCE2[TM] Project Management Web services * Back-ups * Support * Training & Certification * E-Mail M6-IT is a Community Interest Company, limited by guarantee. Registered in England & Wales, Registration No: 6040154 11 St Marks Road, Stourbridge, West Midlands, DY9 7DT Northern Office: 4, Hollins Green, Bradwall, Cheshire, CW10 0LA. Welsh office/Swyddfa Gogledd Cymru: e-mail / e-bost - cymru at M6-IT.org From petef at bristolwireless.net Wed Jan 16 16:04:48 2008 From: petef at bristolwireless.net (Peter Ferne) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:04:48 -0000 Subject: BW )(: Weird cyclical lag pinging access point Message-ID: We've just got a new ADSL2 connection in the Jiva office which works fine over wired ethernet but is behaving very strangely on the wireless. There's a ten to thirty second lag before a page loads. Once it starts loading it's very quick (c.12Mbps) but the horrendous latency is a killer. As I said this only happens when connecting wirelessly. It's a Speedtouch (536 IIRC) wireless router and when I ping it I get the following cyclical pattern: PING 192.168.1.254 (192.168.1.254): 56 data bytes 1361.759 372.038 1.954 1.768 1055.497 1360.370 363.406 1.112 1.210 1354.161 361.835 2.917 1.314 1054.297 369.234 1.593 1.291 1053.876 1357.369 371.639 1.319 1.246 If I ping it on a wired connection I get a steady c. 1ms ping time. Given that it's only a few feet away with a clear line of sight does anybody have any idea what might cause such *huge* variation in ping times over the course of a few seconds (c. 20s for the output above)? I've had Be tech support on the phone and they got me to turn off a few checks by telnetting into the router: {Administrator}=>firewall config tcpchecks=none {Administrator}=>firewall config udpchecks=disabled {Administrator}=>dsd config state=disabled {Administrator}=>ids config state=disabled {Administrator}=>ids config trace=disabled {Administrator}=>saveall {Administrator}=>exit and to try switching to a different channel (although iStumbler shows no conflicting networks on nearby channels) neither of which seem to have had any affect at all. Any suggestions gratefully received TIA -- petef From lloyd at bristolwireless.net Wed Jan 16 17:58:44 2008 From: lloyd at bristolwireless.net (Lloyd Cohen) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:58:44 -0000 Subject: BW )(: Weird cyclical lag pinging access point In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <478E45A6.9040101@bristolwireless.net> Peter Ferne wrote: > We've just got a new ADSL2 connection in the Jiva office which works > fine over wired ethernet but is behaving very strangely on the > wireless. There's a ten to thirty second lag before a page loads. Once > it starts loading it's very quick (c.12Mbps) but the horrendous > latency is a killer. > > As I said this only happens when connecting wirelessly. It's a > Speedtouch (536 IIRC) wireless router and when I ping it I get the > following cyclical pattern: > > PING 192.168.1.254 (192.168.1.254): 56 data bytes > 1361.759 > 372.038 > 1.954 > 1.768 > 1055.497 > 1360.370 > 363.406 > 1.112 > 1.210 > 1354.161 > 361.835 > 2.917 > 1.314 > 1054.297 > 369.234 > 1.593 > 1.291 > 1053.876 > 1357.369 > 371.639 > 1.319 > 1.246 > > If I ping it on a wired connection I get a steady c. 1ms ping time. > > Given that it's only a few feet away with a clear line of sight does > anybody have any idea what might cause such *huge* variation in ping > times over the course of a few seconds (c. 20s for the output above)? To me this looks suspiciously un-varied. It repeats every 4-5s, suggesting to me that there's an issue in the data layer. Remember that a ping uses the transport layer, which queues packets up and passes them to the data layer (wireless protocols, CSMA/CD etc) for transmission. Those ping times suggest a flaw at this level where communications are dropping and take between 2 and 3 seconds to begin talking again. Packets sit in the transport queue while this renegotiation occurs, then flow through, after which things are fine for a couple of seconds. Then the data link drops, and renegotiation must be completed once again... > I've had Be tech support on the phone and they got me to turn off a > few checks by telnetting into the router: > > {Administrator}=>firewall config tcpchecks=none > {Administrator}=>firewall config udpchecks=disabled > {Administrator}=>dsd config state=disabled > {Administrator}=>ids config state=disabled > {Administrator}=>ids config trace=disabled > {Administrator}=>saveall > {Administrator}=>exit > > and to try switching to a different channel (although iStumbler shows > no conflicting networks on nearby channels) neither of which seem to > have had any affect at all. You haven't said whether you've used more than one client - this could be an issue with your laptop, or as you'd probably know about it if it were broken more likely a conflict between the way it's hardware and that within the router speak wireless protocol. Or perhaps you get the same results with any client regardless of hardware, singling out the AP as needing returning/a call out. Either way, updating drivers and flashing the AP with the most up-to-date firmware is about all you can do without getting it replaced, or replacing it yourself. Does the Speedtouch thing have an ADSL input, or is the ADSL modem seperate? If you can, I'd dump the thing for a Linksys WRT54GL ethernet/wireless router running latest OpenWRT Kamikaze. In any environment where the connection is heavily used by multiple people, a combination of the traffic shaping/QoS within a new linux kernel together with the customisations OpenWRT use to take advantage of these features quickly make the thing worth it's ?40 pricetag. -- Lloyd Cohen BristolWireless Infrastructure From hamish at axiomtech.co.uk Wed Jan 16 20:01:46 2008 From: hamish at axiomtech.co.uk (Hamish) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:01:46 -0000 Subject: BW )(: Fracking stuff In-Reply-To: <478E45A6.9040101@bristolwireless.net> References: <478E45A6.9040101@bristolwireless.net> Message-ID: <200801162000.57439.hamish@axiomtech.co.uk> I have a Bristol Wireless device here. Looks like a power over ethernet to the antenna or summat. I am moving out so please come and get it ASAP. AS i think about it, I also cant bothered with any stuff anymore. So I have a large amount of really good stuff to throw away. Please come and collect on Friday or Saturday. Books most as new - Iain M Banks, Stephen King, many O'Reilly, A-Press etc. ethical hacking, snort php mysql and acid, blah blah blah blah Much of an operational computer workshop. rack 10 gang, surge protect, crimps, cat5e - lots, labeller etc. (two cables for the 8:2 Belkin KVM already in Evertons room. If you have anything of mine - for instance my fracking BIKE PUMP or my original TANK GIRL POSTER then please drop them off and all will be forgiven (otherwise ungodly servants will be unleashed on thy soul) Sample of my stuff to be outthrown/collected by you:- collection of dispoable lighters. wood for building or burning. Car battery - was good Marine battery - also good - needs a charge. Some mugs - inc. one metal one. a nice washing machine, an operators (high) chair firebrick (www.firebrick.co.uk) no power supply - but was very cool for its time. fire extinguisher bike leathers and lots of clothes, coats etc. BRAND new proper deck shoes - only to sailors (size 10.5) many pairs. large collection of really naff ties. the most comfortable chair in the world. two new to me pure new wool rugs of questionable design/colour. brand new car cover - large Hoover - henry style. speaker set, cheap. bass bin, powered, jack. the usual old rack mount servers a phat gaming desktop. ok so it was phat 2/3 years ago, stack of blank dvd's a couple of switches, small cheap. one classy netgear. cyder container - empty (dry) 1 2-way radio and charger - BT. MUCH stationary - file hangers etc. short length of poly prop bottle jack paint (various) laser printer and spare cartridge 3 small pots of 'tester' paint. two rugs/prayer mats ( my grandad didnt know what they were) remember this is only an example, come and see what treasures you can find. if anyone wants to give me a hand getting the stuff to the dump then that would be most appreciated. Matthew Edmondson matthew at M6-IT.org Consultant www.M6-IT.org M6-IT CIC 07807487470 0117 9510812 Sustainable Third Sector IT solutions. PRINCE2[TM] Project Management Web services * Back-ups * Support * Training & Certification * E-Mail M6-IT is a Community Interest Company, limited by guarantee. Registered in England & Wales, Registration No: 6040154 11 St Marks Road, Stourbridge, West Midlands, DY9 7DT Northern Office: 4, Hollins Green, Bradwall, Cheshire, CW10 0LA. Welsh office/Swyddfa Gogledd Cymru: e-mail / e-bost - cymru at M6-IT.org From petef at bristolwireless.net Thu Jan 17 10:23:57 2008 From: petef at bristolwireless.net (Peter Ferne) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:23:57 -0000 Subject: BW )(: Weird cyclical lag pinging access point In-Reply-To: <478E45A6.9040101@bristolwireless.net> References: <478E45A6.9040101@bristolwireless.net> Message-ID: <3746C1EB-FDFA-4483-9A39-26CE50AF06A4@bristolwireless.net> On 16 Jan 2008, at 17:57, Lloyd Cohen wrote: > To me this looks suspiciously un-varied. It repeats every 4-5s, > suggesting to me that there's an issue in the data layer... Aha, that makes sense. > You haven't said whether you've used more than one client - this > could be an issue with your laptop, or as you'd probably know about > it if it were broken more likely a conflict between the way it's > hardware and that within the router speak wireless protocol. Hmm, it does only happen with my laptop. The other two, both also macs but different models get steady 1ms pings. My laptop is fine on the network at home (which uses an airport extreme as the AP). > Does the Speedtouch thing have an ADSL input, or is the ADSL modem > seperate? If you can, I'd dump the thing for a Linksys WRT54GL > ethernet/wireless router running latest OpenWRT Kamikaze. In any > environment where the connection is heavily used by multiple people, > a combination of the traffic shaping/QoS within a new linux kernel > together with the customisations OpenWRT use to take advantage of > these features quickly make the thing worth it's ?40 pricetag. It is all in one so that might be a good idea. Thanks Lloyd -- petef From stuart.ward at bcs.org Fri Jan 18 00:13:35 2008 From: stuart.ward at bcs.org (Stuart Ward) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:13:35 -0000 Subject: BW )(: Weird cyclical lag pinging access point In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <478FED50.5010909@bcs.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Peter Ferne said the following on 16/01/08 16:04: | We've just got a new ADSL2 connection in the Jiva office which works | fine over wired ethernet but is behaving very strangely on the wireless. | There's a ten to thirty second lag before a page loads. Once it starts | loading it's very quick (c.12Mbps) but the horrendous latency is a killer. | | As I said this only happens when connecting wirelessly. It's a | Speedtouch (536 IIRC) wireless router and when I ping it I get the | following cyclical pattern: | | PING 192.168.1.254 (192.168.1.254): 56 data bytes | 1361.759 | 372.038 | 1.954 | 1.768 | 1055.497 | 1360.370 | 363.406 | 1.112 I would have said it was radio interference. Try using a different channel - -- Stuart -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHj+1QJGaHnCySEGwRAjLfAKD4mPLxW7JoGo8kBGWkAwC2355jvgCeJ5qV uQE6NBF1gf3Ypgy3Pc1kWlA= =jhao -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mjr at phonecoop.coop Wed Jan 23 17:10:30 2008 From: mjr at phonecoop.coop (MJ Ray) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:10:30 -0000 Subject: BW )(: Archive of this list Message-ID: <479774c6.mKd3/QiW4ZFVarAF%mjr@phonecoop.coop> Hi - can someone fix the list archive links on http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bw-announce please? (I just realised why I hadn't seen the social source info in the bw-announce archives...) Thanks, -- MJ Ray http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html tel:+44-844-4437-237 - Webmaster-developer, statistician, sysadmin, online shop builder, consumer and workers co-operative member http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ - Writing on koha, debian, sat TV, Kewstoke http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ From mbh at psand.net Wed Jan 23 19:34:27 2008 From: mbh at psand.net (Mike Harris) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:34:27 -0000 Subject: BW )(: Archive of this list In-Reply-To: <479774c6.mKd3/QiW4ZFVarAF%mjr@phonecoop.coop> References: <479774c6.mKd3/QiW4ZFVarAF%mjr@phonecoop.coop> Message-ID: <479796BF.9090509@psand.net> Hi MJ Ray, Yes it's broken at the moment and has been for ages!! We kind of agreed yonks ago to forego archives anyway, hence this hasn't been a problem for quite a long time. However the whole archiving thing does need fixing on the list server and if there's a general move to wanting them, then they can come back. In short, I'm faffing, but erm, yes known problem, will get on to it. Cheers, Mike. MJ Ray wrote: > Hi - can someone fix the list archive links on > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bw-announce > please? (I just realised why I hadn't seen the social source > info in the bw-announce archives...) > > Thanks, -- ---------- Mike Harris Psand.net Tlf: +44 7811 671 893 / +34 69 676 3122 / +44 870 162 4927 ext 2 Fax: +44 870 162 4925 Web: http://psand.net PGP: http://www.psand.net/mike/mike.gpg.pub IRC: irc://irc.psand.net:6667/#psand ---------- Psand Limited is registered in England and Wales company number 03291616. Registered office: 21 St Thomas Street, Bristol, BS1 6JS, UK. From mjr at phonecoop.coop Thu Jan 24 10:48:23 2008 From: mjr at phonecoop.coop (MJ Ray) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:48:23 -0000 Subject: BW )(: Archive of this list In-Reply-To: <479796BF.9090509@psand.net> References: <479774c6.mKd3/QiW4ZFVarAF%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <479796BF.9090509@psand.net> Message-ID: <47986ca8.CHApQXOV4CQy9rJZ%mjr@phonecoop.coop> Mike Harris wrote: > We kind of agreed yonks ago to forego archives anyway, hence this hasn't > been a problem for quite a long time. > > However the whole archiving thing does need fixing on the list server > and if there's a general move to wanting them, then they can come back. The announce list was the major concern - I was aware that I'd said I'd subscribe back last year and hadn't done it to this year, so wanted to check I hadn't missed any announcements. If you're going to forego archives, remove the links or put a useful 404 page up where they should be. Either way, as you like. Thanks, -- MJ Ray http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html tel:+44-844-4437-237 - Webmaster-developer, statistician, sysadmin, online shop builder, consumer and workers co-operative member http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ - Writing on koha, debian, sat TV, Kewstoke http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ From mbh at psand.net Thu Jan 24 18:00:29 2008 From: mbh at psand.net (Mike Harris) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:00:29 -0000 Subject: BW )(: Archive of this list In-Reply-To: <47986ca8.CHApQXOV4CQy9rJZ%mjr@phonecoop.coop> References: <479774c6.mKd3/QiW4ZFVarAF%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <479796BF.9090509@psand.net> <47986ca8.CHApQXOV4CQy9rJZ%mjr@phonecoop.coop> Message-ID: <4798D23F.2020307@psand.net> Hi there, Am working on this, hopefully in the next couple of days. This is more like a test message to see if this message ends up in the archive or not. If anyone out that has experience with Mailman and list archiving then that'd be good to know. Also if anyone's got any experience with Lurker and linking the two together. Cheers, Mike. MJ Ray wrote: > Mike Harris wrote: >> We kind of agreed yonks ago to forego archives anyway, hence this hasn't >> been a problem for quite a long time. >> >> However the whole archiving thing does need fixing on the list server >> and if there's a general move to wanting them, then they can come back. > > The announce list was the major concern - I was aware that I'd said > I'd subscribe back last year and hadn't done it to this year, so > wanted to check I hadn't missed any announcements. > > If you're going to forego archives, remove the links or put a useful > 404 page up where they should be. > > Either way, as you like. > > Thanks, -- ---------- Mike Harris Psand.net Tlf: +44 7811 671 893 / +34 69 676 3122 / +44 870 162 4927 ext 2 Fax: +44 870 162 4925 Web: http://psand.net PGP: http://www.psand.net/mike/mike.gpg.pub IRC: irc://irc.psand.net:6667/#psand ---------- Psand Limited is registered in England and Wales company number 03291616. Registered office: 21 St Thomas Street, Bristol, BS1 6JS, UK. From sam at bristolwireless.net Thu Jan 24 22:18:29 2008 From: sam at bristolwireless.net (sam at bristolwireless.net) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:18:29 -0000 Subject: BW )(: Second Life - Gig + Venue preview tonight!! Message-ID: <1201213931.479911eb32fd2@www.slackmail.co.uk> Hi all As many of you will know Bristol Wireless are partners in the http://www.xtreamlab.net/ project. On Sat Febuary 23rd we are running DROID at Trinity. Droid is an experiment in bringing the real and virtual worlds face to face. (press release below) 1) There is an opportunity to get a sneak preview of the (virtual) venue on Friday 25th (tonight). Our project partners http://www.moebiussurfing.net/ are running a live gig at Prados Azules; it runs from 21.30 GMT. For those of you that have not yet checked out Second life, it is a great opportunity to take a look around and support our project partners. Sign up and download the software at www.secondlife.com, then use the search function to find Prados Azules. 2) We are looking to recruit crew for the event on the 23rd Feb. There are lot's of opportunities to get involved. Possible roles include; * Sound Tech. * Sourcing and setting up 2X second life terminals in the venue. * Researcher roles * Decor sourcing and hanging * logistics * flyering Volunteers will get free entry into the event and other fabulous perks. We are currently finalising the roles so if you would like to get involved then email xtreamlab at lists.psand.net by 1st Febuary at the latest. 3) Press release. Flyers; http://www.xtreamlab.net/wiki/index.php/Images_for_DROID_Event LUKE VIBERT (Warp / Rephlex) VARIOUS PRODUCTION DJs BASS CLEF + VEXKIDDY + more acts & DJs & VJs + Second Life Interventions at: D.R.O.I.D A Cyber-Kinetic Second Life Experience + VJs and cyberpunk interfacing On: SAT 23rd FEB 2008 REAL LIFE VENUE: TRINITY, Old Market, BRISTOL SECOND LIFE VENUE: Prados Azules TIME: 8pm till late PRICE: ?6 in advance / more on the door. WEB: http://www.xtreamlab.net/droid D.R.O.I.D is a club: big and heavy. An extraordinary occasion featuring a stellar cast of 21st century dance music from top draw live guests, DJs and some virtual avatar stars. The line up is blistering in the bass end with super high end tweaks ? be it filthy house, dubstep-not-dubstep, mutant breaks, electro-techno or of course Victorian Acid House. Seriously giant screens transform the club by hijacking the world of Second Life and setting it loose in a real life environment, with live streams and killer VJ pyrotechnics. This is where the live computer generation display their wares - trombone action, crazed techno cabaret shows, filter sweeps and urban music from across the globe liven up the place. The technology is set loose for future funk, and hang on in there. D.R.O.I.D is an event to challenge our reality, what we perceive to be the here and now and what we think of as the future-distant. The club event will take place simultaneously in the digitised world of Second Life, and as a consequence of this, across the known world. The line-up at the Trinity will be streamed live into Second Life, where avatars will be able to enjoy the sights and sounds of the night. At the Trinity huge suspended, back-projected screens will show the audience the virtual world of Second Life. There will also be ?interaction terminals? in the hall to allow participants to hit the dancefloor in the virtual domain. The aim is for the two audiences, the physical and the digital, to get to know each other, dance the mad dance. How many technophobes out there have never spoken to their virtual brothers and sisters? How many of the new wired generation have never left the confines of their virtual reality interfaces to interact with the rest of us? Greater understanding is what we seek, together we shall stand, shoulder to digitised shoulder... LUKE VIBERT is the ultimate UK dancefloor chameleon, who has spent nearly twenty years atop the leftfield dance game, ceaselessly morphing identities from his own name (billowing acid house and breakbeat) into Wagon Christ (kitchen sink cartoon-hop), Plug (quirky drum 'n' bass), Amen Andrews (junglist tear-out), Spac Hand Luke (grimey goodness), and Kerrier District (glitterball disco/house) along with countless other aliases, remixes and collaborations with the likes of Aphex Twin, BJ Cole and Jean-Jacques Perry. No other artist can boast the full set of influential dance labels, either: that's Mo'Wax, Warp, Ninja Tune, Rephlex and Planet Mu. As a DJ he goes wherever the mood takes him, and the floor will always follow: multidimensional, freerange fucked-up grooves from the original Cornish king. http://www.warprecords.com/lukevibert/ VARIOUS PRODUCTION DJs are a shadowy collective of retro-futurists who released a album on the phat XL (Radiohead, Dizzee Rascal, The White Stripes), a nameless, faceless collective of producers and vocalists who have left a trail of acclaimed and covetable singles in their wake. Their unique sound - noir-ish folk over mangled grime, deep dub and spooky beats - seems to refract the ?Bristol sound? of Portishead or Massive Attack through a hall of mirrors and update it for the 21st century. One of the most thrilling electronic pop outfits to have emerged in years, they sit alone with Burial in taking rough-edged dubstep sonics overground by marrying them with a sweet pop sensibility. They are an act steeped in mystery who refuse to be pigeon-holed, and this DJ set ? their Bristol debut - will reflect this genre-bucking playfulness. Expect the unexpected. http://www.various.co.uk/ http://www.myspace.com/various SECOND LIFE: Influenced by the cyperpunk literary movement, and most notably by the Neil Stephenson novel Snow Crash, Second Life is a 3-D virtual world that can be accessed on-line using a computer program called the Second Life Viewer. To take part in Second Life, a user must become a Resident by creating their own virtual counterpart known as an avatar. The Residents are then able to shape the virtual world itself by creating objects, buildings and even whole landscapes. The virtual world has its own currency, and the Residents may also buy, sell and trade items that they create. Second Life first opened to the public in 2003 by Linden Research, Inc and has since grown to have millions of Residents from around the globe, tens of thousands of which can be found to be on-line at any one time. Second Life is so cutting-edge it defies genre classification. It is a game, a tool, a playground, a nation, and whole new world for human social interaction and development. BASS CLEF live is a blast. With live trombone and pirate flags, he bypasses laptop/looping and embraces a primitive and banging multi-instrumentalism with ringing cow-bell, heavy trombone blasts and effects all spicing up his wonky digidub, electronic dubstep. Ralph (formally RLF) has shared stages with Konono No 1, Appleblim, Pinch, Kode 9, and Digital Mystikz. A rogue operator of the bottom end kind. His live show is a heady combination of heavy bass, dirty high end and killer melodies. Kinda like 'Rahsaan Roland Kirk' jamming with 'Iration Steppas' on a full moon. http://www.myspace.com/bassclefbass http://bass-clef.blogspot.com/ VEXKIDDY are a show and a half. They bang up the place with messed up dance music via Victorian time travel mixed with an acid house sideshow. Cuthbert & Strangeways, two serious 'scientists' from the Victorian era, go in search of Vexkiddy, an interstellar being who has wrought havoc with the time flux polyphase generator that their assistant 'Trainee' was using.... 'Trainee' is still lost in future-time... will they ever reach him? Fuck knows, but it sounds like a 21st century rave or they have been hangin? too long in Second Life. http://www.vexkiddy.com/ http://www.myspace.com/therhomworkshop D.R.O.I.D crew Bristol Wireless: http://www.bristolwireless.net Micro Film: http://www.micro-film.org Q-Junktions: http://www.qujunktions.com Psand: http://www.psand.net First Born Creatives: http://www.firstborn-creatives.co.uk Blackout Arts: http://www.blackoutarts.co.uk Moebius Surfing: http://www.moebiussurfing.net (SL) Mosi - Mosi: http://www.mosi-mosi.com/metaverse (SL) Pitch Volley: http://www.pitchvolley.com (SL) Radio Vague: http://www.radiovague.com (SL) Event production is a collaboration between XtreamLab.Net Ltd and Etherspace Broadcasting Ltd with the grateful support of South West Screen. TICKET OUTLETS: Bristol Ticket Shop / Here Shop (Stokes Croft) / 20th Century Flicks (Clifton) / Rooted Records CREDIT CARD BOOKINGS: 0870 4444 400 / http://www.bristolticketshop.co.uk ================================ --------------------------------------------- This email message was delivered by Psand.net From mjr at phonecoop.coop Fri Jan 25 09:34:12 2008 From: mjr at phonecoop.coop (MJ Ray) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:34:12 -0000 Subject: BW )(: Archive of this list In-Reply-To: <4798D23F.2020307@psand.net> References: <479774c6.mKd3/QiW4ZFVarAF%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <479796BF.9090509@psand.net> <47986ca8.CHApQXOV4CQy9rJZ%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <4798D23F.2020307@psand.net> Message-ID: <4799acbb.nCLsHEhKotsjFfOG%mjr@phonecoop.coop> Mike Harris wrote: > If anyone out that has experience with Mailman and list archiving then > that'd be good to know. Also if anyone's got any experience with Lurker > and linking the two together. Not a recent version and I'd like to update my Mailman skills, but it will be week after next, probably - let me know. I've not worked with Lurker, but I know that you have to beware the stylesheets as the default ones don't set a foreground colour (and actually, Mailman has a similar problem). Regards, -- MJ Ray http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html tel:+44-844-4437-237 - Webmaster-developer, statistician, sysadmin, online shop builder, consumer and workers co-operative member http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ - Writing on koha, debian, sat TV, Kewstoke http://mjr.towers.org.uk/