From andys at bristolwireless.net Tue Aug 5 12:15:43 2008 From: andys at bristolwireless.net (Andy S) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:15:43 +0000 Subject: BW )(: Debian weekly news.. Message-ID: <80d25c2b0808050415kcc306cbw20a05c67de3a394d@mail.gmail.com> Worth keeping up with - esp. for those with Eeepc or similar! http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2008/08/ A -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.psand.net/pipermail/bristolwireless/attachments/20080805/7fd8d137/attachment.htm From matthew at m6-it.org Thu Aug 7 07:49:19 2008 From: matthew at m6-it.org (Matthew Edmondson) Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 07:49:19 +0100 Subject: BW )(: Green Server sourcing In-Reply-To: <4876624c.rDF3hF3CrAIw3+CI%mjr@phonecoop.coop> References: <4876624c.rDF3hF3CrAIw3+CI%mjr@phonecoop.coop> Message-ID: <1218091759.7518.4.camel@batu> Hey I have a green NGO client who needs a new LTSP server. They will need 6 clients and have less than 1k to spend. I have been somewhat out of the hardware market, especially the new hardware market. Has anyone seen anything that is likely to fit the bill? Most grateful for any suggestions over and above a nice new mini-mac. : ) Yours (not in a field) Hamish P.S. check out greenserver.com (shouldn't that be ltspd too) -- Matthew Edmondson matthew at M6-IT.org Consultant www.M6-IT.org M6-IT CIC +44 07807487470 Sustainable Third Sector IT solutions. PRINCE2[TM] Project Management Web services * Back-ups * Support * Training & Certification * E-Mail M6-IT is a Community Interest Company, limited by guarantee. Registered in England & Wales, Registration No: 6040154 Northern Office: e-mail richards at m6-it.org Welsh office/Swyddfa Gogledd Cymru: e-mail / e-bost - cymru at M6-IT.org From matthew at truthisfreedom.org.uk Thu Aug 7 08:22:21 2008 From: matthew at truthisfreedom.org.uk (Matthew Macdonald-Wallace) Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:22:21 +0100 Subject: BW )(: Green Server sourcing In-Reply-To: <1218091759.7518.4.camel@batu> References: <4876624c.rDF3hF3CrAIw3+CI%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <1218091759.7518.4.camel@batu> Message-ID: <1218093742.6947.2.camel@music> On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 07:49 +0100, Matthew Edmondson wrote: > Hey > > I have a green NGO client who needs a new LTSP server. > > They will need 6 clients and have less than 1k to spend. > > I have been somewhat out of the hardware market, especially the new > hardware market. > > Has anyone seen anything that is likely to fit the bill? Most grateful > for any suggestions over and above a nice new mini-mac. : ) DNUK (DNUK.com) have a server that uses 40W, would that do? Can't remember the price, but all their stuff is built to run Linux and they ship Debian if requested! Cheers, M. From hamish at axiomtech.co.uk Thu Aug 7 08:40:01 2008 From: hamish at axiomtech.co.uk (Hamish) Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:40:01 +0100 Subject: BW )(: Green Server sourcing In-Reply-To: <1218093742.6947.2.camel@music> References: <4876624c.rDF3hF3CrAIw3+CI%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <1218091759.7518.4.camel@batu> <1218093742.6947.2.camel@music> Message-ID: <1218094801.10288.2.camel@batu> On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 08:22 +0100, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 07:49 +0100, Matthew Edmondson wrote: > > Hey > > > > I have a green NGO client who needs a new LTSP server. > > > > They will need 6 clients and have less than 1k to spend. > > > > I have been somewhat out of the hardware market, especially the new > > hardware market. > > > > Has anyone seen anything that is likely to fit the bill? Most grateful > > for any suggestions over and above a nice new mini-mac. : ) > > DNUK (DNUK.com) have a server that uses 40W, would that do? > > Can't remember the price, but all their stuff is built to run Linux and > they ship Debian if requested! > > Cheers, > > M. > Many thanks Matthew :) > > _______________________________________________ > Bristolwireless mailing list > Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From bails at westcomuk.com Thu Aug 7 08:47:32 2008 From: bails at westcomuk.com (bails) Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 08:47:32 +0100 Subject: BW )(: Green Server sourcing In-Reply-To: <1218093742.6947.2.camel@music> References: <4876624c.rDF3hF3CrAIw3+CI%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <1218091759.7518.4.camel@batu> <1218093742.6947.2.camel@music> Message-ID: <489AA894.5020808@westcomuk.com> http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukbsdt1&kc=305&l=en&oc=SV3T1051&s=bsd&sbc=pedge_t105 ?149 now only ?199 last week. You'll need to bump up the RAM though. Bails Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 07:49 +0100, Matthew Edmondson wrote: >> Hey >> >> I have a green NGO client who needs a new LTSP server. >> >> They will need 6 clients and have less than 1k to spend. >> >> I have been somewhat out of the hardware market, especially the new >> hardware market. >> >> Has anyone seen anything that is likely to fit the bill? Most grateful >> for any suggestions over and above a nice new mini-mac. : ) > > DNUK (DNUK.com) have a server that uses 40W, would that do? > > Can't remember the price, but all their stuff is built to run Linux and > they ship Debian if requested! > > Cheers, > > M. > > > _______________________________________________ > Bristolwireless mailing list > Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > From hamish at axiomtech.co.uk Thu Aug 7 09:14:40 2008 From: hamish at axiomtech.co.uk (Hamish) Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:14:40 +0100 Subject: BW )(: Green Server sourcing In-Reply-To: <489AA894.5020808@westcomuk.com> References: <4876624c.rDF3hF3CrAIw3+CI%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <1218091759.7518.4.camel@batu> <1218093742.6947.2.camel@music> <489AA894.5020808@westcomuk.com> Message-ID: <1218096880.10288.13.camel@batu> Bails Nice one! But there needs to be something earnestly green about it so that the client can feel that they are doing their bit - this is important to them. :) I have looked into this a few years ago and concluded back then that re-use was the greenest thing to do. however with *some* effort going towards bespoke Green IT these days I thought I would ask if anyone had come across anything. No news of the soy and feather board hitting the retails as far as i can see. (or the lasagne for that matter). Come on folks its been over year since it was shown off! grr. http://www.udel.edu/PR/UDaily/2006/mar/wool032906.html hx On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 08:47 +0100, bails wrote: > http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukbsdt1&kc=305&l=en&oc=SV3T1051&s=bsd&sbc=pedge_t105 > > ?149 now only ?199 last week. > > You'll need to bump up the RAM though. > > Bails > > Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 07:49 +0100, Matthew Edmondson wrote: > >> Hey > >> > >> I have a green NGO client who needs a new LTSP server. > >> > >> They will need 6 clients and have less than 1k to spend. > >> > >> I have been somewhat out of the hardware market, especially the new > >> hardware market. > >> > >> Has anyone seen anything that is likely to fit the bill? Most grateful > >> for any suggestions over and above a nice new mini-mac. : ) > > > > DNUK (DNUK.com) have a server that uses 40W, would that do? > > > > Can't remember the price, but all their stuff is built to run Linux and > > they ship Debian if requested! > > > > Cheers, > > > > M. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bristolwireless mailing list > > Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net > > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bristolwireless mailing list > Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From bails at westcomuk.com Thu Aug 7 09:31:59 2008 From: bails at westcomuk.com (bails) Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 09:31:59 +0100 Subject: BW )(: Green Server sourcing In-Reply-To: <1218096880.10288.13.camel@batu> References: <4876624c.rDF3hF3CrAIw3+CI%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <1218091759.7518.4.camel@batu> <1218093742.6947.2.camel@music> <489AA894.5020808@westcomuk.com> <1218096880.10288.13.camel@batu> Message-ID: <489AB2FF.5000909@westcomuk.com> Hamish I have to admit I dont know how much power they draw, but they are EXTREMELY quite {hush}. I'll cc this to rich and he can power up the ECC LTSP server in the lab and measure the power consumption and post back (if he wants). And for the record just using LTSP is probably the greenest IT environment you can have, provided your thin clients. 1. have no moving parts, ie no hdd cdrom fan psu/fan. I tested some 800mhz Via VXL Itonas last week and without monitor they were pulling 23watts each. 2. dont have dirty big CRT's attached to them Bails Hamish wrote: > Bails > > Nice one! > > But there needs to be something earnestly green about it so that the > client can feel that they are doing their bit - this is important to > them. :) > > I have looked into this a few years ago and concluded back then that > re-use was the greenest thing to do. > > however with *some* effort going towards bespoke Green IT these days I > thought I would ask if anyone had come across anything. > > > No news of the soy and feather board hitting the retails as far as i can > see. (or the lasagne for that matter). Come on folks its been over year > since it was shown off! grr. > > http://www.udel.edu/PR/UDaily/2006/mar/wool032906.html > > hx > > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 08:47 +0100, bails wrote: >> http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukbsdt1&kc=305&l=en&oc=SV3T1051&s=bsd&sbc=pedge_t105 >> >> ?149 now only ?199 last week. >> >> You'll need to bump up the RAM though. >> >> Bails >> >> Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: >>> On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 07:49 +0100, Matthew Edmondson wrote: >>>> Hey >>>> >>>> I have a green NGO client who needs a new LTSP server. >>>> >>>> They will need 6 clients and have less than 1k to spend. >>>> >>>> I have been somewhat out of the hardware market, especially the new >>>> hardware market. >>>> >>>> Has anyone seen anything that is likely to fit the bill? Most grateful >>>> for any suggestions over and above a nice new mini-mac. : ) >>> DNUK (DNUK.com) have a server that uses 40W, would that do? >>> >>> Can't remember the price, but all their stuff is built to run Linux and >>> they ship Debian if requested! >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> M. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bristolwireless mailing list >>> Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net >>> http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bristolwireless mailing list >> Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net >> http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > > > _______________________________________________ > Bristolwireless mailing list > Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > From andys at bristolwireless.net Thu Aug 7 09:30:40 2008 From: andys at bristolwireless.net (Andy S) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 08:30:40 +0000 Subject: BW )(: Green Server sourcing In-Reply-To: <1218096880.10288.13.camel@batu> References: <4876624c.rDF3hF3CrAIw3+CI%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <1218091759.7518.4.camel@batu> <1218093742.6947.2.camel@music> <489AA894.5020808@westcomuk.com> <1218096880.10288.13.camel@batu> Message-ID: <80d25c2b0808070130p64f74512sc98589ec28d1a3ac@mail.gmail.com> We are talking about *just* the server right - coz 1K don't get many thin clients/screens etc. once the server is bought/configured.. A 2008/8/7 Hamish > Bails > > Nice one! > > But there needs to be something earnestly green about it so that the > client can feel that they are doing their bit - this is important to > them. :) > > I have looked into this a few years ago and concluded back then that > re-use was the greenest thing to do. > > however with *some* effort going towards bespoke Green IT these days I > thought I would ask if anyone had come across anything. > > > No news of the soy and feather board hitting the retails as far as i can > see. (or the lasagne for that matter). Come on folks its been over year > since it was shown off! grr. > > http://www.udel.edu/PR/UDaily/2006/mar/wool032906.html > > hx > > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 08:47 +0100, bails wrote: > > > http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukbsdt1&kc=305&l=en&oc=SV3T1051&s=bsd&sbc=pedge_t105 > > > > ?149 now only ?199 last week. > > > > You'll need to bump up the RAM though. > > > > Bails > > > > Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: > > > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 07:49 +0100, Matthew Edmondson wrote: > > >> Hey > > >> > > >> I have a green NGO client who needs a new LTSP server. > > >> > > >> They will need 6 clients and have less than 1k to spend. > > >> > > >> I have been somewhat out of the hardware market, especially the new > > >> hardware market. > > >> > > >> Has anyone seen anything that is likely to fit the bill? Most > grateful > > >> for any suggestions over and above a nice new mini-mac. : ) > > > > > > DNUK (DNUK.com) have a server that uses 40W, would that do? > > > > > > Can't remember the price, but all their stuff is built to run Linux and > > > they ship Debian if requested! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > M. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Bristolwireless mailing list > > > Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net > > > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bristolwireless mailing list > > Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net > > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > > > _______________________________________________ > Bristolwireless mailing list > Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.psand.net/pipermail/bristolwireless/attachments/20080807/5e4e4cbe/attachment.htm From hamish at axiomtech.co.uk Thu Aug 7 10:14:27 2008 From: hamish at axiomtech.co.uk (Hamish) Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:14:27 +0100 Subject: BW )(: Green Server sourcing In-Reply-To: <80d25c2b0808070130p64f74512sc98589ec28d1a3ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <4876624c.rDF3hF3CrAIw3+CI%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <1218091759.7518.4.camel@batu> <1218093742.6947.2.camel@music> <489AA894.5020808@westcomuk.com> <1218096880.10288.13.camel@batu> <80d25c2b0808070130p64f74512sc98589ec28d1a3ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1218100467.15084.4.camel@batu> On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 08:30 +0000, Andy S wrote: > We are talking about just the server right - coz 1K don't get many > thin clients/screens etc. once the server is bought/configured.. Indeed just server boxen everything else is sorted. Zero mission creep. : ) > > A > > > > 2008/8/7 Hamish > Bails > > Nice one! > > But there needs to be something earnestly green about it so > that the > client can feel that they are doing their bit - this is > important to > them. :) > > I have looked into this a few years ago and concluded back > then that > re-use was the greenest thing to do. > > however with *some* effort going towards bespoke Green IT > these days I > thought I would ask if anyone had come across anything. > > > No news of the soy and feather board hitting the retails as > far as i can > see. (or the lasagne for that matter). Come on folks its been > over year > since it was shown off! grr. > > http://www.udel.edu/PR/UDaily/2006/mar/wool032906.html > > hx > > > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 08:47 +0100, bails wrote: > > > http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukbsdt1&kc=305&l=en&oc=SV3T1051&s=bsd&sbc=pedge_t105 > > > > ?149 now only ?199 last week. > > > > You'll need to bump up the RAM though. > > > > Bails > > > > Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: > > > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 07:49 +0100, Matthew Edmondson > wrote: > > >> Hey > > >> > > >> I have a green NGO client who needs a new LTSP server. > > >> > > >> They will need 6 clients and have less than 1k to spend. > > >> > > >> I have been somewhat out of the hardware market, > especially the new > > >> hardware market. > > >> > > >> Has anyone seen anything that is likely to fit the bill? > Most grateful > > >> for any suggestions over and above a nice new > mini-mac. : ) > > > > > > DNUK (DNUK.com) have a server that uses 40W, would that > do? > > > > > > Can't remember the price, but all their stuff is built to > run Linux and > > > they ship Debian if requested! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > M. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Bristolwireless mailing list > > > Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net > > > > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bristolwireless mailing list > > Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net > > > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > > > _______________________________________________ > Bristolwireless mailing list > Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bristolwireless mailing list > Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From hamish at axiomtech.co.uk Thu Aug 7 10:21:42 2008 From: hamish at axiomtech.co.uk (Hamish) Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:21:42 +0100 Subject: BW )(: Green Server sourcing In-Reply-To: <489AB2FF.5000909@westcomuk.com> References: <4876624c.rDF3hF3CrAIw3+CI%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <1218091759.7518.4.camel@batu> <1218093742.6947.2.camel@music> <489AA894.5020808@westcomuk.com> <1218096880.10288.13.camel@batu> <489AB2FF.5000909@westcomuk.com> Message-ID: <1218100902.15084.12.camel@batu> On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 09:31 +0100, bails wrote: > Hamish > > I have to admit I dont know how much power they draw, but they are > EXTREMELY quite {hush}. I'll cc this to rich and he can power up the ECC > LTSP server in the lab and measure the power consumption and post back > (if he wants). Indeed they are quiet - I remember. Measuring their wattage would be handy anyway i guess, so please do Rich. :) I have been asked to installed a rack server in an office before. It sounded like an aircraft taking off. LOL. > > And for the record just using LTSP is probably the greenest IT > environment you can have, provided your thin clients. > > 1. have no moving parts, ie no hdd cdrom fan psu/fan. I tested some > 800mhz Via VXL Itonas last week and without monitor they were pulling > 23watts each. Thats very low. Mike's mini-mac drew 39 Watts IIRC. Out of interest - what did the monitors draw? > > 2. dont have dirty big CRT's attached to them > > Bails > > Hamish wrote: > > Bails > > > > Nice one! > > > > But there needs to be something earnestly green about it so that the > > client can feel that they are doing their bit - this is important to > > them. :) > > > > I have looked into this a few years ago and concluded back then that > > re-use was the greenest thing to do. > > > > however with *some* effort going towards bespoke Green IT these days I > > thought I would ask if anyone had come across anything. > > > > > > No news of the soy and feather board hitting the retails as far as i can > > see. (or the lasagne for that matter). Come on folks its been over year > > since it was shown off! grr. > > > > http://www.udel.edu/PR/UDaily/2006/mar/wool032906.html > > > > hx > > > > On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 08:47 +0100, bails wrote: > >> http://configure.euro.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukbsdt1&kc=305&l=en&oc=SV3T1051&s=bsd&sbc=pedge_t105 > >> > >> ?149 now only ?199 last week. > >> > >> You'll need to bump up the RAM though. > >> > >> Bails > >> > >> Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 07:49 +0100, Matthew Edmondson wrote: > >>>> Hey > >>>> > >>>> I have a green NGO client who needs a new LTSP server. > >>>> > >>>> They will need 6 clients and have less than 1k to spend. > >>>> > >>>> I have been somewhat out of the hardware market, especially the new > >>>> hardware market. > >>>> > >>>> Has anyone seen anything that is likely to fit the bill? Most grateful > >>>> for any suggestions over and above a nice new mini-mac. : ) > >>> DNUK (DNUK.com) have a server that uses 40W, would that do? > >>> > >>> Can't remember the price, but all their stuff is built to run Linux and > >>> they ship Debian if requested! > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> > >>> M. > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Bristolwireless mailing list > >>> Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net > >>> http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Bristolwireless mailing list > >> Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net > >> http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bristolwireless mailing list > > Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net > > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bristolwireless mailing list > Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From hamish at axiomtech.co.uk Thu Aug 7 10:32:40 2008 From: hamish at axiomtech.co.uk (Hamish) Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 10:32:40 +0100 Subject: BW )(: Very Cheap Laptops In-Reply-To: <1218100902.15084.12.camel@batu> References: <4876624c.rDF3hF3CrAIw3+CI%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <1218091759.7518.4.camel@batu> <1218093742.6947.2.camel@music> <489AA894.5020808@westcomuk.com> <1218096880.10288.13.camel@batu> <489AB2FF.5000909@westcomuk.com> <1218100902.15084.12.camel@batu> Message-ID: <1218101560.15084.15.camel@batu> Worlds Cheapest Laptop ?65! http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/16500/17524/worlds-cheapest-laptop-impulse-NPX-9000.phtml hmm now maybe they have pxe ;) From lug at assursys.co.uk Thu Aug 7 11:52:35 2008 From: lug at assursys.co.uk (Alex Butcher) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 11:52:35 +0100 (BST) Subject: BW )(: Green Server sourcing In-Reply-To: <1218096880.10288.13.camel@batu> References: <4876624c.rDF3hF3CrAIw3+CI%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <1218091759.7518.4.camel@batu> <1218093742.6947.2.camel@music> <489AA894.5020808@westcomuk.com> <1218096880.10288.13.camel@batu> Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Aug 2008, Hamish wrote: > I have looked into this a few years ago and concluded back then that > re-use was the greenest thing to do. supports that view, along with buying something that's spec'ed to last a good few years rather than something that's marginal today, and inadequate next year. > hx Best Regards, Alex. -- Alex Butcher, Bristol UK. PGP/GnuPG ID:0x5010dbff "[T]he whole point about the reason why I think it is important we go for identity cards and an identity database today is that identity fraud and abuse is a major, major problem. Now the civil liberties aspect of it, look it is a view, I don't personally think it matters very much." - Tony Blair, 6 June 2006 From andys at bristolwireless.net Thu Aug 7 15:11:43 2008 From: andys at bristolwireless.net (Andy S) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:11:43 +0000 Subject: BW )(: Very Cheap Laptops In-Reply-To: <1218101560.15084.15.camel@batu> References: <4876624c.rDF3hF3CrAIw3+CI%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <1218091759.7518.4.camel@batu> <1218093742.6947.2.camel@music> <489AA894.5020808@westcomuk.com> <1218096880.10288.13.camel@batu> <489AB2FF.5000909@westcomuk.com> <1218100902.15084.12.camel@batu> <1218101560.15084.15.camel@batu> Message-ID: <80d25c2b0808070711n4b85590elfd10631abc54e0b4@mail.gmail.com> 9) External USB LAN or 802.11g WiFi dongle (optional) So no dice :-( http://carapelli.trustpass.alibaba.com/product/101509462/World_s_Cheapest_Laptop.html Still...one day...funny name for a Taiwanese manuft'r... A 2008/8/7 Hamish > Worlds Cheapest Laptop > > ?65! > > > http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/16500/17524/worlds-cheapest-laptop-impulse-NPX-9000.phtml > > hmm now maybe they have pxe ;) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bristolwireless mailing list > Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.psand.net/pipermail/bristolwireless/attachments/20080807/9740ec88/attachment.htm From mjr at phonecoop.coop Sat Aug 9 15:10:58 2008 From: mjr at phonecoop.coop (MJ Ray) Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 15:10:58 +0100 Subject: BW )(: Green Server sourcing In-Reply-To: <1218091759.7518.4.camel@batu> References: <4876624c.rDF3hF3CrAIw3+CI%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <1218091759.7518.4.camel@batu> Message-ID: <489da572.CoJoy2a/USPNozcy%mjr@phonecoop.coop> Matthew Edmondson wrote: > I have a green NGO client who needs a new LTSP server. > > They will need 6 clients and have less than 1k to spend. > > I have been somewhat out of the hardware market, especially the new > hardware market. So have I. Hardly surprising, as TTLLP is primarily a software cooperative. Please don't use the "reply" button to hijack threads: the above request isn't a reply to the old "RFID devices" thread, so why send it as one? As well as flagging it up to me (who clearly isn't a hardware expert, else I wouldn't have been asking for help finding RFID devices), using "reply" instead of "compose" may mean the message will be hidden from others because it is in a thread they've hidden/deleted already. "You can start writing a new e-mail message by clicking File > New > Mail Message, by pressing Ctrl+N when in the mailing tool, or by clicking New in the toolbar." http://library.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/usage-mail-getnsend-send.html.en_GB Thanks for your cooperation, -- MJ Ray (slef) Webmaster for hire, statistician and online shop builder for a small worker cooperative http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ (Notice http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html) tel:+44-844-4437-237 From seankenny at gmail.com Sat Aug 9 17:12:51 2008 From: seankenny at gmail.com (sean) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 17:12:51 +0100 Subject: BW )(: Fwd: [Brhmob] Bristol Radical History Week 2008 In-Reply-To: <489DB471.6080604@irational.org> References: <489DB471.6080604@irational.org> Message-ID: Subject: [Brhmob] Bristol Radical History Week 2008 To: BRHG Mob Dear BRHG mob, First to let you know that the BRHG website now has all the audio files of the talks from last May's events 'Down With The Fences! The Struggle For The Global Commons'. So if you missed these excellent talks and debates have a look at http://www.brh.org.uk/archive_audio.html. Our radical history week 2008 (October 25th to Nov 5th) is being planned at the moment and will cover Regicide, Movements against the Monarchy, Republicanism and Political Assassination. It will involve a mix of talks, debates, gigs, films, commemorations and childrens events. If you would like to participate in any way or have some ideas then please let us know asap. Behold the head of a traitor! BRHG _______________________________________________ Brhmob mailing list Brhmob at brh.org.uk http://www.brh.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/brhmob From seankenny at gmail.com Fri Aug 15 10:50:11 2008 From: seankenny at gmail.com (sean) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:50:11 +0100 Subject: BW )(: Green Server sourcing In-Reply-To: <489da572.CoJoy2a/USPNozcy%mjr@phonecoop.coop> References: <4876624c.rDF3hF3CrAIw3+CI%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <1218091759.7518.4.camel@batu> <489da572.CoJoy2a/USPNozcy%mjr@phonecoop.coop> Message-ID: On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 3:10 PM, MJ Ray wrote: > Matthew Edmondson wrote: > > I have a green NGO client who needs a new LTSP server. > > > > They will need 6 clients and have less than 1k to spend. > > > > I have been somewhat out of the hardware market, especially the new > > hardware market. > > So have I. Hardly surprising, as TTLLP is primarily a software > cooperative. Please don't use the "reply" button to hijack threads: > the above request isn't a reply to the old "RFID devices" thread, so > why send it as one? hmm, came through as an entirely new thread on my client. I can't see there was any attempt to "hijack" a previous thread? Sean > > > As well as flagging it up to me (who clearly isn't a hardware expert, > else I wouldn't have been asking for help finding RFID devices), using > "reply" instead of "compose" may mean the message will be hidden from > others because it is in a thread they've hidden/deleted already. > > "You can start writing a new e-mail message by clicking File > New > > Mail Message, by pressing Ctrl+N when in the mailing tool, or by > clicking New in the toolbar." > > http://library.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/usage-mail-getnsend-send.html.en_GB > > Thanks for your cooperation, > -- > MJ Ray (slef) > Webmaster for hire, statistician and online shop builder for a small > worker cooperative http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ > (Notice http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html) tel:+44-844-4437-237 > > _______________________________________________ > Bristolwireless mailing list > Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.psand.net/pipermail/bristolwireless/attachments/20080815/095386ef/attachment.htm From bails at westcomuk.com Fri Aug 15 11:47:20 2008 From: bails at westcomuk.com (bails) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:47:20 +0100 Subject: BW )(: Green Server sourcing In-Reply-To: References: <4876624c.rDF3hF3CrAIw3+CI%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <1218091759.7518.4.camel@batu> <489da572.CoJoy2a/USPNozcy%mjr@phonecoop.coop> Message-ID: <48A55EB8.8070006@westcomuk.com> Oh No thread hijacking what a crime! to answer the OP we've just tested the dell with 1 thin client running 4 tabs of youtube (with sound) in iceweasel, oowriter, twinkle gaim and a couple of other apps running we get a consistent 60-65 watts consumed by the server. Bails sean wrote: > On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 3:10 PM, MJ Ray wrote: > >> Matthew Edmondson wrote: >>> I have a green NGO client who needs a new LTSP server. >>> >>> They will need 6 clients and have less than 1k to spend. >>> >>> I have been somewhat out of the hardware market, especially the new >>> hardware market. >> So have I. Hardly surprising, as TTLLP is primarily a software >> cooperative. Please don't use the "reply" button to hijack threads: >> the above request isn't a reply to the old "RFID devices" thread, so >> why send it as one? > > > hmm, came through as an entirely new thread on my client. I can't see there > was any attempt to "hijack" a previous thread? > > Sean > >> >> As well as flagging it up to me (who clearly isn't a hardware expert, >> else I wouldn't have been asking for help finding RFID devices), using >> "reply" instead of "compose" may mean the message will be hidden from >> others because it is in a thread they've hidden/deleted already. >> >> "You can start writing a new e-mail message by clicking File > New > >> Mail Message, by pressing Ctrl+N when in the mailing tool, or by >> clicking New in the toolbar." >> >> http://library.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/usage-mail-getnsend-send.html.en_GB >> >> Thanks for your cooperation, >> -- >> MJ Ray (slef) >> Webmaster for hire, statistician and online shop builder for a small >> worker cooperative http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ >> (Notice http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html) tel:+44-844-4437-237 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bristolwireless mailing list >> Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net >> http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Bristolwireless mailing list > Bristolwireless at lists.psand.net > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From mjr at phonecoop.coop Fri Aug 15 14:40:28 2008 From: mjr at phonecoop.coop (MJ Ray) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:40:28 +0100 Subject: BW )(: reply/new message/hijacking, was: Green Server sourcing In-Reply-To: <48A55EB8.8070006@westcomuk.com> References: <4876624c.rDF3hF3CrAIw3+CI%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <1218091759.7518.4.camel@batu> <489da572.CoJoy2a/USPNozcy%mjr@phonecoop.coop> <48A55EB8.8070006@westcomuk.com> Message-ID: <48a5874c.rKCbcvwx5A7NnuO3%mjr@phonecoop.coop> bails wrote: > Oh No thread hijacking what a crime! No crime. It just makes it harder for us to prioritise email correctly and avoid wasting electricity (ObTopic) if people disguise their messages by using "reply" for non-replies, so I'd like to ask nicely if it could be avoided. (If anyone wants details of the scoring rules involved in this, please contact me off-list. I'm reluctant to explain my email-sorting in public beyond what appears at http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html because it's actually working pretty well just now.) Regards, -- MJ Ray (slef) Webmaster for hire, statistician and online shop builder for a small worker cooperative http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ http://mjr.towers.org.uk/ (Notice http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html) tel:+44-844-4437-237 From sam at bristolwireless.net Fri Aug 15 17:53:20 2008 From: sam at bristolwireless.net (sam at bristolwireless.net) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:53:20 +0100 Subject: BW )(: 2 Gig free online backup space for linux users Message-ID: <20080815175320.dy58fmi2w4kcccks@slackmail.co.uk> There are a number of these free online backup services. This is the only free one that supports Linux as far as I am aware. It is fully cross platform and also supports Mac and Windows. https://spideroak.com/ Now there is no excuse for lost data.. Thanks Sam ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From petef at bristolwireless.net Sun Aug 17 17:43:18 2008 From: petef at bristolwireless.net (Peter Ferne) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:43:18 +0100 Subject: BW )(: OT: spare shambala ticket going cheap Message-ID: <5A5306DD-B25D-457D-9B12-CE678FD9A0B1@bristolwireless.net> Anybody fancy a spare ticket to Shambala next weekend? Save ?20 on the ticket price and get a ?15 car pass thrown in for free, if you want it. http://bit.ly/1E1rEJ -- petef From petef at bristolwireless.net Wed Aug 20 16:13:43 2008 From: petef at bristolwireless.net (Peter Ferne) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:13:43 +0100 Subject: BW )(: OT: spare shambala ticket going cheap In-Reply-To: <60923.172.16.1.1.1219242169.squirrel@clear.mail.jail.lemonia.org> References: <20080820151428.fkl8r4qj40ck04og@slackmail.co.uk> <60923.172.16.1.1.1219242169.squirrel@clear.mail.jail.lemonia.org> Message-ID: <02F15FF1-ED09-4668-9A96-5CCC3C8B8E03@bristolwireless.net> > Someone snapped this up already? 'Fraid so. -- petef