From petef at bristolwireless.net Tue May 1 08:29:40 2007 From: petef at bristolwireless.net (Peter Ferne) Date: Wed Aug 27 22:18:08 2008 Subject: BW )(: Can a number be subject to copyright? Message-ID: <89437EDD-5FEB-4CDC-ABCA-F504AE091E7F@bristolwireless.net> Specifically, this number: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0. It?s the HD-DVD Processing Key for most movies released so far. http://rudd-o.com/archives/2007/04/30/spread-this-number/ _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Tue May 1 08:49:13 2007 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Wed Aug 27 22:18:08 2008 Subject: BW )(: Can a number be subject to copyright? In-Reply-To: <89437EDD-5FEB-4CDC-ABCA-F504AE091E7F@bristolwireless.net> References: <89437EDD-5FEB-4CDC-ABCA-F504AE091E7F@bristolwireless.net> Message-ID: <20070501154913.GC7698@amphibian.dyndns.org> Skipped content of type multipart/signed-------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From toad at amphibian.dyndns.org Tue May 1 09:45:13 2007 From: toad at amphibian.dyndns.org (Matthew Toseland) Date: Wed Aug 27 22:18:08 2008 Subject: BW )(: IPRED2 passes European Parliament was [[ffii] European Parliament Criminalises Businesses, Consumers, Innovators] Message-ID: <20070501164513.GA13309@amphibian.dyndns.org> Skipped content of type multipart/signed-------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From lug at assursys.co.uk Tue May 1 10:02:11 2007 From: lug at assursys.co.uk (Alex Butcher) Date: Wed Aug 27 22:18:08 2008 Subject: BW )(: Can a number be subject to copyright? In-Reply-To: <89437EDD-5FEB-4CDC-ABCA-F504AE091E7F@bristolwireless.net> References: <89437EDD-5FEB-4CDC-ABCA-F504AE091E7F@bristolwireless.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 1 May 2007, Peter Ferne wrote: > Specifically, this number: > > 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0. An interesting philosophical question, since all digital media (i.e. samples, MP3s, CDs, DVDs) could be regarded as single numbers (albeit VERY large!) that just happen, when processed through certain algorithms, to generate vaguely-pleasing sounds and pictures. The existence of successfully-prosecuted cases seems to indicate that certain numbers can indeed be copyrighted, but what's the minimum size? 5*60*1024*1024*8=2.5Gbits? (a single MP3 song at a reasonable bit rate) 3*(120/60)*0.25*44100*16=1Mbit? (three quarter-beat notes at 120bpm - ) less? Best Regards, Alex. -- Alex Butcher, Bristol UK. PGP/GnuPG ID:0x5010dbff "[T]he whole point about the reason why I think it is important we go for identity cards and an identity database today is that identity fraud and abuse is a major, major problem. Now the civil liberties aspect of it, look it is a view, I don't personally think it matters very much." - Tony Blair, 6 June 2006 _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From rah at bash.sh Tue May 1 12:59:08 2007 From: rah at bash.sh (Bob Ham) Date: Wed Aug 27 22:18:08 2008 Subject: BW )(: Can a number be subject to copyright? In-Reply-To: <89437EDD-5FEB-4CDC-ABCA-F504AE091E7F@bristolwireless.net> References: <89437EDD-5FEB-4CDC-ABCA-F504AE091E7F@bristolwireless.net> Message-ID: <1178049548.25584.28.camel@orchid.arb.net> Skipped content of type multipart/signed-------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From rick.hurst at gmail.com Wed May 2 01:33:40 2007 From: rick.hurst at gmail.com (Rick Hurst) Date: Wed Aug 27 22:18:08 2008 Subject: BW )(: Can a number be subject to copyright? In-Reply-To: <1178049548.25584.28.camel@orchid.arb.net> References: <89437EDD-5FEB-4CDC-ABCA-F504AE091E7F@bristolwireless.net> <1178049548.25584.28.camel@orchid.arb.net> Message-ID: <5c11d5880705020133w230a2ce1x7bc93b26f58bc424@mail.gmail.com> On 5/1/07, Bob Ham wrote: > On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 16:29 +0100, Peter Ferne wrote: > > Specifically, this number: > > > > 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0. > > > > It's the HD-DVD Processing Key for most movies released so far. > > IANAL, however: > > It's probably not copyrightable. Not all human works are copyrightable. > Certain classes such as music, literature, database designs, are. This > number is a cryptographic key which I don't believe is included in the > classes of works that copyright applies to. Interesting things happenned over at digg.com over this - user revolt when digg deleted posts containing the number due to a cease and desist order - now they've had a change of heart - mob rule! http://blog.digg.com/?p=74 -- Rick Hurst, Web developer, Bristol, England http://www.rickhurst.co.uk | http://www.netsight.co.uk _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From mediamonger at gmail.com Tue May 8 05:34:11 2007 From: mediamonger at gmail.com (Richard Higgs) Date: Wed Aug 27 22:18:08 2008 Subject: BW )(: dell server vista refund Message-ID: <5c22789d0705080534m2fc651d9s1d3d42a620ef2a4d@mail.gmail.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From cygnus3 at btopenworld.com Tue May 8 06:23:06 2007 From: cygnus3 at btopenworld.com (Steve Woods) Date: Wed Aug 27 22:18:08 2008 Subject: BW )(: dell server vista refund In-Reply-To: <5c22789d0705080534m2fc651d9s1d3d42a620ef2a4d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <267796.87416.qm@web86006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> --- Richard Higgs wrote: > Hi all, on Friday we spent some time on the phone to > Dell's helpful customer > support line. We ordered a new machine for > CSVEnviroment, it came with > Windows installed. We successfully got the refund > from Dell for the unwanted > software. The big surprise was the price, 17 pounds > for Vista and 6 pounds > for Works. > > here's thire mail: > > Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 16:58:55 +0530 > From: *@Dell.com > Reply-To*@Dell.com > Subject: Dell Customer Case#519956561 > To: sam@bristolwireless.net > > > > Dear Mr Rossiter, > > I'm pleased to tell you that I have successfully > concluded your case > > by refunding 23 pounds back into your account and > please do reply > > incase of any queries, and have logged it with the > following details: > > My Name: Sandhya K > > Please mail me back if you feel the issue is not > resolved to your > > Complete Satisfaction > > We pride ourselves on the quality of our Customer > Service, if the > > issue is not resolved to your satisfaction please > contact my > > supervisor:Kaushik_sunkara@dell.com > > Thanks, > > Dell Customer Care So, that's less than the cost of the OEM version of XP. I'm also surprised Works is worth that much. Anyone fancy writing it up for BW News? Woodsy _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From seankenny at gmail.com Thu May 10 02:39:53 2007 From: seankenny at gmail.com (sean) Date: Wed Aug 27 22:18:08 2008 Subject: BW )(: Fwd: [ukriders] Meet Peter, 79, You-Tube's most-viewed blogger + Learn out how to sail, surf, fish, and blog + Launch of Silver Surfers' Classroom + How to find a local Silver Surfers' Day Event In-Reply-To: <64B6BCF31DE89C4C8D6622FCE9A86B7F03446E@DU-NOR-NTSER0.du.local> References: <64B6BCF31DE89C4C8D6622FCE9A86B7F03446E@DU-NOR-NTSER0.du.local> Message-ID: PRESS RELEASE: IMMEDIATE May 10, 2007 TITLE: IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO BE A BLOGGER: NEW SILVER SURFERS' DAY CLASSROOM SHOWS YOU HOW COPY: It's all hotting up for Silver Surfers' Day (SSD 07) at the end of May. Events are building up on www.silversurfersday.org . Older people can now find taster sessions on Internet/email in most parts of the country, from a library in the Highlands to a Sainsbury's car park in Torquay. Internet Rangers (BT's youthful posse of helpers) are holding an SSD Event at the largest and oldest satellite station on Earth at Goonhilly, the Lizard, Cornwall. A new Internet company, Maple and Leek, aiming its services to the older socialite, is not only launching on SSD 07 but also offering 40 older people a chance to do adventurous things around the country: wake-board, surf, fly-fish, drive a classic car and sail an ancient barge on the Thames ? and then, in celebration of SSD, record their experience by blog at an Internet caf?. And, to top it all, today sees the launch of the Silver Surfers' Classroom as part of the process of resourcing these and other generous organisations holding these Events. Yes, Silver Surfers' Day, now in its sixth glorious year, really is coming of age. Initiated in 2002 by Digital Unite (DU), in 2007, SSD is run in partnership with Ofcom. SSD 07 is on the Friday of Adult Learners' Week, May 25th (although Events will be held from about May 12 onwards). SSD is the biggest annual media literacy campaign aimed at older people in the UK. The SSD Classroom is full of 'little gems'. These are 22 downloadable, printable hand-outs, mostly one side of A4, clear and simple. They're aimed at complete beginners and those who want to explore further, on topics from holding a mouse to blogging, getting acquainted with a browser to organising your digital images, finding your way round a keyboard to finding friends far and near. They're all completely free from www.silversurfersday.org/classroom.php . There is also a wonderfully clear, simple hand-out on Digital Switchover. The 79 year-old blogger? Find the link to Peter on our on-line blogging Guide http://www.silversurfersday.org/classroom3.php. You'll wonder why you've never blogged. People who want to find an Event should ring freephone number: 0800 100 900 with their postal code to hand. CONTACTS: - For Silver Surfers' Day/Digital Unite: Gill Adams E: gill.adams@digitalunite.net / T: 0870 241 5091 / W: www.silversurfersday.org - For Ofcom Ofcom media office E: mediaoffice@ofcom.org.uk / T: 020 7981 3033. / W: www.ofcom.org.uk - For BT Internet Rangers or the BT Digital Inclusion Campaign: Emmanuel Xirogiannis E: emmanuel.xirogiannis@trimediahc.com / T: 0207 025 7513 / W: www.btinternetrangers.co.uk EDITORS' NOTES: What is Media Literacy? 'Media literacy' is the 'upgraded' version of IT/ digital literacy, and so coined because as technologies converge (and you can get email on your phone, make phone calls on the Net, get the Net on your telly, the telly on your computer) our assimilation of these possibilities and the skills required to make use of them is, actually, requiring a whole new form of literacy. In today's society, media literacy has become fundamentally important. It can make life easier, cheaper and more fun. It can make a huge change for the better in older people's everyday lives, their level of independence, access to people and services, and general well being and contentment. Some Statistics 'Use of mobile phones and the Internet can help older people to remain independent by making it easier for them to communicate with their family and friends or to access public and commercial services. http://www.statistics.gov.uk/focuson/olderpeople/ 'Internet use is more common among the young, and declines with age. In 2006, 84 per cent of people aged 16 to 24 had used the Internet within the last three months, compared with 52 per cent of people aged 55 to 64 and 15 per cent of those aged 65 and over.' http://www.statistics.gov.uk/focuson/digitalage/ '8 out of 10 older people are missing out on access to a whole range of online services.' (Help the Aged) 'By no means everyone has joined the digital age? The biggest factor stopping the older generation from using the Internet was a lack of interest or knowledge.' Opinion: http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2035468,00.html and Source: http://www.statistics.gov.uk/focuson/digitalage/ The Ofcom Consumer Panel's survey, Consumers and the communications market: 2006, reveals that age remains one of the most significant factors influencing whether or not people engage with digital communications. It highlights the higher levels of older people who say they do not want or have no need for many communications services. This is particularly noticeable in the take-up of the Internet where 56% of people aged 65+ voluntarily excluded themselves compared to the national average of 22%. The survey also reveals that ownership of digital television (DTV) for people aged 65 and over is 20% below the UK average. Overall, people's engagement with technology begins to decline significantly after age 55. The research suggests that the group of people who are 'digitally disengaged', if given appropriate support and assistance, can use the opportunity to overcome their concerns and fears and benefit from computer / Internet usage. Examples of support that would seem particularly welcome for this group include courses designed for and run by older people and a mentoring scheme. DU proves daily that older people can succeed with IT. Source: www.ofcomconsumerpanel.org.uk/publications/Older_People_and_Comms_FINAL.pdf About Digital Unite DU, media literacy experts for older people, began life in 1996. It initiated and has managed Silver Surfers' Day for the past five years and offers free resources for Event Holders, large or small, on www.silversurfersday.org DU manages a Trainer Network, of older Trainers, which delivers one-to-one IT training to older learners in their homes all over the UK. DU also runs specialised IT training programmes aimed at older learners in their local communities, including many in sheltered housing environments. See www.digitalunite.net for more detail. ENDS _________________________________________________________________ You received this message as a subscriber on the list: ukriders@lists.lasa.org.uk To be removed from the list, send any message to: ukriders-unsubscribe@lists.lasa.org.uk For all list information and functions, including changing your subscription mode and options, visit the Web page: http://lists.lasa.org.uk/lists/info/ukriders --------------------------------------------------------- This list is hosted at NPOGroups.org, a service of Electric Embers: Internet hosting services for the community http://electricembers.net _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From cygnus3 at btopenworld.com Fri May 11 05:21:21 2007 From: cygnus3 at btopenworld.com (Steve Woods) Date: Wed Aug 27 22:18:08 2008 Subject: BW )(: dell server vista refund In-Reply-To: <5c22789d0705080534m2fc651d9s1d3d42a620ef2a4d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <491314.59171.qm@web86010.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Hi all It would appear Rich's email (below) has made it obliquely onto the pages of The Register as a comment. STARTS OEM price By Chris Posted Friday 11th May 2007 09:27 GMT >From a recent e-mail I've seen you can get a refund from Dell for any unwanted Vistas for the grand total of ?17 each. Yup, seventeen quid! I'm not if this is the true cost to Dell for a Vista OEM licence or if it's artifically lowered... ENDS Source: http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2007/05/10/lenovo_microsoft_framework_agreement/comments/ Cheers Woodsy --- Richard Higgs wrote: > Hi all, on Friday we spent some time on the phone to > Dell's helpful customer > support line. We ordered a new machine for > CSVEnviroment, it came with > Windows installed. We successfully got the refund > from Dell for the unwanted > software. The big surprise was the price, 17 pounds > for Vista and 6 pounds > for Works. > > here's thire mail: > > Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 16:58:55 +0530 > From: *@Dell.com > Reply-To*@Dell.com > Subject: Dell Customer Case#519956561 > To: sam@bristolwireless.net > > > > Dear Mr Rossiter, > > I'm pleased to tell you that I have successfully > concluded your case > > by refunding 23 pounds back into your account and > please do reply > > incase of any queries, and have logged it with the > following details: > > My Name: Sandhya K > > Please mail me back if you feel the issue is not > resolved to your > > Complete Satisfaction > > We pride ourselves on the quality of our Customer > Service, if the > > issue is not resolved to your satisfaction please > contact my > > supervisor:Kaushik_sunkara@dell.com > > Thanks, > > Dell Customer Care > > _______________________________________________ > Bristolwireless mailing list > Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From seankenny at gmail.com Mon May 14 03:53:33 2007 From: seankenny at gmail.com (sean) Date: Wed Aug 27 22:18:09 2008 Subject: BW )(: civicrm In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hmm, wrong list On 14/05/07, sean wrote: > Hi all, > > I've now transferred all phone numbers into civicrm, there are a > couple of doubles mainly because there were doubles in the page, but > some because the import reported "failed" when it hadn't, so I did it > again. Some individuals for whom we only had one name have the surnam > e as "not entered-please input" because last name is a required field > in individuals records, but that should sort itself out in the wash. > It's a damn sight easier to configure the record fields than in sugar, > but if there is a particular recording requirement give me a shout and > I'll give it a go. Bails says it will work a lot faster if we move the > DB off the 600Mhz box it's now on. > > Proposal : Deprecate the Telephones page on the admin wiki and point at CiviCRM > > Sean > > _______________________________________________ > Bristolwireless mailing list > Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net > http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless > _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From seankenny at gmail.com Mon May 14 03:51:50 2007 From: seankenny at gmail.com (sean) Date: Wed Aug 27 22:18:09 2008 Subject: BW )(: civicrm Message-ID: Hi all, I've now transferred all phone numbers into civicrm, there are a couple of doubles mainly because there were doubles in the page, but some because the import reported "failed" when it hadn't, so I did it again. Some individuals for whom we only had one name have the surnam e as "not entered-please input" because last name is a required field in individuals records, but that should sort itself out in the wash. It's a damn sight easier to configure the record fields than in sugar, but if there is a particular recording requirement give me a shout and I'll give it a go. Bails says it will work a lot faster if we move the DB off the 600Mhz box it's now on. Proposal : Deprecate the Telephones page on the admin wiki and point at CiviCRM Sean _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From seankenny at gmail.com Wed May 16 07:43:00 2007 From: seankenny at gmail.com (sean) Date: Wed Aug 27 22:18:09 2008 Subject: BW )(: UWE Linux Boot Camp Message-ID: http://www.connectingbristol.org/2007/05/14/linux-boot-camp/ _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From mediamonger at gmail.com Sat May 26 03:22:03 2007 From: mediamonger at gmail.com (Richard Higgs) Date: Wed Aug 27 22:18:09 2008 Subject: BW )(: Micro Mart magazine Message-ID: <5c22789d0705260322q5ecc002qe4d8cb08ad4b36ca@mail.gmail.com> forwarded post, thanks to andy :) This weeks Micro Mart magazine (the weekly pc mag) has a a few paragraphs about Bristol Wireless in the cover story 'The State Of UK Wireless Hotspots' - with quotes from Rich, even a piccy of our home page - should get a few more hits to our website this week then! _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From mike at fluffylogic.net Wed May 30 09:50:15 2007 From: mike at fluffylogic.net (Mike Tonks) Date: Wed Aug 27 22:18:09 2008 Subject: BW )(: mySQL training? Message-ID: <727692630705300950t7c13e0b1g159dff17c5acfa3@mail.gmail.com> Skipped content of type multipart/alternative-------------- next part -------------- _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From petef at bristolwireless.net Thu May 31 05:16:29 2007 From: petef at bristolwireless.net (Peter Ferne) Date: Wed Aug 27 22:18:09 2008 Subject: BW )(: slurpr Message-ID: <1EF351E2-5CD8-463C-A0AE-4B248C0F5A00@bristolwireless.net> What if you could connect to *all* of the open networks you could see *at the same time*? http://slurpr.com -- petef _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless From mike at psand.net Thu May 31 17:16:31 2007 From: mike at psand.net (Mike Harris) Date: Wed Aug 27 22:18:09 2008 Subject: BW )(: BW network streams the Venn Festival all over the place Message-ID: <465F655F.5000103@psand.net> Hi All, Maybe you know that Bristol Wireless is involved in a project called XtreamLab along with Psand, Micro-Film and the Venn Festival organisaters? Well we're streaming for 3 days during the Venn festival and have a nice new web site with information about it: http://www.xtreamlab.net and more info on the line-up and streams: http://www.xtreamlab.net/live.html This is all made possible with BW's network and a temporary link between the Arnolfini and Watershed that Rich and Matt got working yesterday and then a tweaked with the gracious help of Matt from BMEX and Oliver from the Watershed. Thanks guys!! Here's a Google Map of what's going on for reference: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&q=&msa=0&msid=116091757328127903486.000001129f5e61af38d6e&om=1&ll=51.450263,-2.59758&spn=0.056057,0.187283&z=13 To watch or listen in, there's a few options: Video: rtsp://live1.radiovague.com:554/venn.sdp is a Quick Time stream that may work for you in VLC and definitely works using QT Player 7. Audio: http://live2.radiovague.com:8000/venn.ogg.m3u is OGG/Vorbis which should work for most, but then there's also http://live2.radiovague.com:8000/venn.mp3.m3u that is in MP3 for the rest. Lastly if you frequent Second Life, you can teleport to Calamaro Planet on the Isle of Prosperity - try this link: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Isle%20of%20Prosperity/14/131/22 Anyway, I'll be at the Arnolfini on Friday and Sunday and between Cube and Croft on Saturday, so hope to see you there.... Cheers, Mike. -- ---------- Mike Harris Psand.net Tlf: +34 69 676 3122 / +44 870 162 4927 ext 2 Fax: +44 870 162 4925 Web: http://psand.net PGP: http://www.psand.net/mike/mike.gpg.pub IRC: irc://irc.psand.net:6667/#psand ---------- Harto de Internet Exploiter? Inst?late Firefox ya!: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ _______________________________________________ Bristolwireless mailing list Bristolwireless@lists.psand.net http://lists.psand.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/bristolwireless